James Toney is Back in Action, And Looking Good Too

[Monticello]

I don't believe he's the Toney we saw from teh first fight against Peter, but it's not like he's facing a world beater, Rachman hasn't looked very good in his fights since being KO'd by Maskaev for the second time. We will see though.

[Kilrain]

Before the Peter rematch we heard a ton of stuff too, how Toney had did a bunch of roadwork, had got real fit, real sharp etc etc. What happened, he came in and got outworked, outpunched, outhustled, damn he didn't perform one iota like he can. I hope they're right and he's in business, because this really is Last Chance, he's forty this year and only has a couple more in him I feel, maybe he can win this and get Chagaev, he won't get Peter again at least I doubt it, not going 0-2 with the last one conclusive

[PeterinMI]

I am rooting for Toney but I wonder what his injury or sickness for the Batchelder fight was?

Toney has (had?) mad skills. I really hate reading a litany of excuses though for each and every loss and poor performance. Come on. Don't blow smoke up my arse. He looked like crap in the 2nd Peter fight and he was gasping. Then for the second time around he tests positive for roids? He is over the hill. We will see for this fight but I am not sure even if he wins if a bout with the Rock at this stage would prove anything.

[Silencers]

Toney has (had?) mad skills. I really hate reading a litany of excuses though for each and every loss and poor performance. Come on. Don't blow smoke up my arse. He looked like crap in the 2nd Peter fight and he was gasping. Then for the second time around he tests positive for roids? He is over the hill. We will see for this fight but I am not sure even if he wins if a bout with the Rock at this stage would prove anything.

A win over Rahman may not prove anything at this point because he's pretty far over the hill as well but it could propel him into contention for another shot at the title.

I agree with the first part of your post.

[abadger]

Toney has (had?) mad skills. I really hate reading a litany of excuses though for each and every loss and poor performance. Come on. Don't blow smoke up my arse. He looked like crap in the 2nd Peter fight and he was gasping. Then for the second time around he tests positive for roids? He is over the hill. We will see for this fight but I am not sure even if he wins if a bout with the Rock at this stage would prove anything.

Key signs of this are advanced age combined with borderline obesity. They can be hard to spot for all but the most discerning fans.

[Xyei]

I'm routing for Toney all the way!! He's one of my favorite fighters.

He has an old school record. Just look at it.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...1437&cat=boxer

Who has 80 fights these days?

[PeterinMI]

I'm routing for Toney all the way!! He's one of my favorite fighters.

He has an old school record. Just look at it.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...1437&cat=boxer

Who has 80 fights these days?

I understand your desire to see him fight and your appreciation of his record. The fact is though that the guy that fought most of those fights is gone. Take for instance one of my favirote fighters of all time.... Sweet Pea Pernell Whitaker. Great fighter but can anyone say he was the same fighter after having his win changed to a no contest testing positive for drugs against Andrei Pestriaev. It was time for him to leave and he did after 2 decisive losses.

What I fear is it is going to take Toney too many fights if it hasn't already to learn the same lesson. Do we want to see him with full blown pugilistic dementia? I certainly don't. I can see a prime James Toney on ESPN Classic all the time. What will take place on Fox Sports will not be the James Toney you are desiring.

[PeterinMI]

Abut it could propel him into contention for another shot at the title.

And wouldn't that be great for boxing and the division. Why don't we just have Evander and Toney box it out......? The reason being it is silly. Not only is it silly we know it doesn't help either fighter. THey may get a temporary boost to their bank accounts or child support payments but they put themselves one step closer to the fate of any of the Quarry brothers. I love the sport and I think Toney does too. As has been said many times before for other fighters James needs to see that the Sport no longer loves him.

[Leo Pradun]

I am rooting for Toney but I wonder what his injury or sickness for the Batchelder fight was?

IT was obesity

[Leo Pradun]

If Holyfield got a title shot Toney deserves one if he beats Rahman. Too bad he tested positive for some bull****t when he beat Ruiz it would have been really interesting to see what he would have been doing with the title.