D.Haye will KO W.Klitschko!

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  • Machine Gunz
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    #1

    D.Haye will KO W.Klitschko!

    Klitschko just isnt the same as when he first came onto the scene, he used to be relentless when it came to offense, he didnt worry about getting hit, back when he was an up and coming contender, he was 70% offense 30% defense, he would throw a variety of punches, he was real good to watch.

    But now.. He is too cautious, he is scared to throw more than 3 punches at once, all he does now is use his strength and his reach with a jab, a right hand, then clinch, even when he hurts the guy he clinches! where is the killer instinct with finishing the man off? When Klitschko is hit on the head with a punch he panics, he quickly tries to grab onto his opponent, he doesnt show heart.

    2 out of the 3 times Klitschko has been stopped he was stopped by quick powerful punchers who can fire missiles from the inside (Brewster, Sanders). David Haye has more power and speed than both of these guys, and he is way more technically sound, Haye has very quick footwork which enables him to close up gaps quicker than most, and he can fire power punches from all angles, Haye has the height, and he will have the weight to compete with Klitschko, carrying his handspeed, footwork and agility upto HW wont be a problem as he has to Nov to slowly build up muscle (not fat, like most cruisers coming up!) which will probably make him even quicker.

    To beat Klitschko, all Haye has to do is work on keeping his hands up in close (the left hand up high). I see Haye KO'ing Klitschko up close, by using his quick footwork to close the gap from the outside, he will rock Klitschko with uppercuts and hooks as Klitschko desperately tries to clinch (clinching should be banned from boxing) before finishing Klitschko off with missile straight rights against the ropes, in the same manner Haye stopped Maccarinelli!

    Haye will be the saviour of heavyweight boxing, destroying countless overweight plodding pretenders in the process, bringing an exciting style to HW, nice quick hands, footwork, agility and a KO punch, he will also bring charisma and showmanship to the division, unlike these 3 word's a sentence robots.
    Last edited by Machine Gunz; 07-14-2008, 12:59 AM.
  • Left Hook Tua
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    #2
    it's possible.

    i think he'll have pop at heavy. isn't his only fight at heavy a ko win?

    he just needs to find the right weight for him , i say no more than 235 though i'd rather he be 220-225 , and work on his defense.

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    • Winter
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      #3
      Vladimir is the best boxer, and no one will beat him.

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      • Left Hook Tua
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        #4
        Originally posted by Winter
        Vladimir is the best boxer, and no one will beat him.
        wladimir is the best at heavy at the moment.

        there have been 3 "NO ONE's" that already have.

        i wouldn't bet money against wlad right now that's for sure but he can be beat. just because he would be the favorite against everyone doesn't mean no one can beat him.

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        • Left Hook Tua
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          #5
          Originally posted by WLAD OWNS SUCKS
          David Haye is a overrated bum and will be KO'ed by a Wladimir jab. I saved you the trouble of posting WLAD OWNS!
          wladimir's jab is legendary.

          puts liston and holmes' jab to shame.

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          • Njord777
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            #6
            There's a valid point here. Klitschko has been showing two major flaws:

            1.) A lack of inside fighting.

            True to the original post here, Wladimir has been choosing to abandon his inside game, clinching whenever his opponent gets too close, and then choosing to work on establishing reach with his pawing jab and fighting off of it. He does not work much at all inside. Is this to preserve stamina? I don't know, but it's not good in terms of just how little he wants to fight inside. When he goes into instant 'close-clinch' mode, a solid uppercut could really find the mark.

            2.) A lack of aggression.

            I like Klitschko. I'm not criticizing him, like some people, because I don't have respect for the guy. He's the best heavyweight out there right now and I like watching him fight when he delivers to his full potential- but to be honest, I don't feel like he is. This goes further back than his last two fights. He got the KO against Brock but, for most of the fight, he was being very cautious and measured up until that point. A good knockout erases any wrongs, though, so people forget...it's been quite awhile now that Wladimir is not being as aggressive as he once was. The thread starter is correct. Now, part of this is the fact that Klitschko is trying to preserve his stamina and now prefers accuracy over aggresion -but he fails to smell blood and finish guys that are ready to go. He could've knocked Thompson out several rounds earlier, I feel like he could have knocked Ibragimov out clean, and Brock could've eaten it just like he did but much quicker, too. It's not hate- it's objectivity. Klitschko seems to value safety above all else- I think part of this is his intelligence. That big old, multi-lingual brain of his is working overtime and knows that it's game over if he loses now- so he's taking the 'w' above all else- in short, he's afraid to take any risks. Why is that a problem? Well:

            1.) No inside game gives his opponent a place to be effective.
            If someone works inside on Klitschko they'll be able to- at least with his current fight plan- nail him if they move smartly before he can clinch. One good, hard shot, or the accumulation over a night, can really spell trouble for Wlad. He has a bad chin and, at least, can lose sight of his own rhythm if his opponent works well inside.

            2.) Keeping a live opponent in front of you is always dangerous for a heavyweight.


            This is a division of big men. Big men with lots of weight to throw behind a punch and some serious power. This with a champion whose biggest weakness is his chin. It's hard to ignore the offense that got Wladimir this far, but that's often what he's doing. This safety first mentality is dangerous when you have a hard puncher - one punch can change a night and not finishing someone you have the ability to finish is almost more dangerous than being more aggressive, despite Klitschko trying to be defensive and safe. It's just not a good idea. Manny has yelled at him for this before.


            So, yes, Haye and other boxers with decent pop pose a serious threat. I'd prefer to see David fight someone else first to measure how he does at the weight, but to dismiss him outright based on Wlad's last few performances is silly.

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            • boxa__ali
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              #7
              I know Haye is going to knock out wlad because wlad is a rubbish heavyweight that is too scared to get hit. My god thomson is the ****test contender for a championship fight ive seen and wlad was scared. thomson had nothing and wlad was struggling. Why do u think haye wants to go up because theres no competition there all bums. they have no technique and mostly over weight. Haye is gana wipe throught the heavyweights

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              • Winter
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                #8
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                wladimir's jab is legendary.

                puts liston and holmes' jab to shame.
                Everything you say is true. Wladimir is legendary.

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                • Winter
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by boxa__ali
                  I know Haye is going to knock out wlad because wlad is a rubbish heavyweight that is too scared to get hit. My god thomson is the ****test contender for a championship fight ive seen and wlad was scared. thomson had nothing and wlad was struggling. Why do u think haye wants to go up because theres no competition there all bums. they have no technique and mostly over weight. Haye is gana wipe throught the heavyweights
                  You will be so disappointed when Vladimir beats your fighter. Thompson would beat your fighter.

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                  • damian5000
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                    #10
                    The same Haye that was -160 against Mac? LOL... My god man.

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