Official Rjj Is Shot Or Not Thread

[abadger]

you know I think Tyson lost some of his "badass" factor!

but he can still scrap...i will tell you this...if Tyson decides to fight again...and train hard...he can still **** and rank in the top 15 of the heavyweights...

and he can even salvage a small career again on Friday Night Fights....and to me there's nothing wrong for a fighter to go back to the basics...a fighter is supposed to fight someone a notch above him or a notch below him to give that lesser fighters a chance at the spotlight...yea he can do some things on ESPN....against some scrappies

Tyson is as done as done could be. He could train for six million years and never be able to come back. You saw the guys he lost to, right?

Jones is nowhere near as shot as Tyson was at the end, he at least can still beat the bums he faces, but he is shot enough that he cannot compete with elites anymore. Calzaghe will beat him easily.

[d-1-n-only]

the calzaghe fans will say he not shot, so if joe beats him they can rinse it for all its worth. A bunch of shameless w*nkers. Just like they said hopkins wasnt shot!!!!!

Hopkins is about 7years past his best

[Talon]

even if roy isnt his best ever he is still better than 99% of fighters out there..

[Scott9945]

awe c'mon

i dont think Mike can and will come back to fight for a championship belt or a top 5 fighter...

i just said he can scrap on FNF on ESPN

gimme some points

Mike weighs about 300 lbs now and has no heart for boxing anymore. Thankfully he realizes that and is moving on with his life. Him fighting on ESPN would be like Barry Bonds signing up to play AA ball.

[Silencers]

I don't think he's totally shot but he's definitely not the same fighter.

[Tysonisgod]

Roy is shot, a hate Joe C, cos well a hate most british fighters lol

Joe C will either win a 12 rounder or will punch out the last 3 rounds and ref steps in

[KostyaTszyu44]

What has Roy done to prove to you he aint shot??
At 40?
He fought 3 guys in 3 years.
2 Nobodies and a blown up worn out Welter.
Who has he beat tip top to show he still has the game?
Did you believe Mike Tyson could come back as well?

and whos calzaghe fought lately ???? a 43 year old hopkins, winning by a very debatable decision...

lets examine their achievments...

roy: best fighter of the 90's p4p no.1 , titles at middle, super middle, light heavy and heavy if im not mistaken.....wins over hopkins, toney, tarver ( even though tarver steamrolled him two other times) , hanshaw, clinton woods, virgil hill, montel griffin, mike mccallum......
first middleweight champ to win a heavyweight title in like 100 years......

joe: hid behind a WBO belt for 10 years, beat a past prime eubank, overrated and blown up welter manfredo and overrated lacy, old hopkins, only credible win is kessler.......oh and at age 36 and 15 years as a pro boxer....he still cant throw a proper punch....

even if roy is shot to ****, he can still pull something out of the bag to beat that fraud joe

[THE REED]

I don't think he's totally shot but he's definitely not the same fighter.

co-sign......

[Kris Silver]

co-sign......

Same. I'd say he's about 70-80% of what he was, but people just don't recognise him anymore since losing some of his flashy hand speed, foot speed, stamina and such. He's adapted.

Only two options in a poll, from one extreme to another. How very fair and convenient.

[KostyaTszyu44]

Calzaghe will beat him easily.

****in dumb ass *********, you know **** all bout boxing and make dumb ass predictions like this, you dont even analyise their stats or strengths etc.... i think jones will win by picking his shots, letting joe punch like crazy and then put joe on his ass with a punch like hopkins did...and believe me, roy hits harder than bernard, the one thing that doesnt go with age is power, roys reflexes etc may be dulled but his skill and power and boxing brain are there and if roy and his team are smart (which they are) they will know that joe is quite open as he charges in and as a southpaw joe is vulnerable to be nailed with a right cross straight down the middle. roy will knock him out, he knows he isnt busy enough or fast enough anymore to win a decision against a guy like joe who just throws punches non stop