"HBO Should Have Forced Calzaghe-Pavlik," Says Arum

[msagrain]

pavlik vs williams. LOL

[kayjay]

Force Joe/pavlik? Yeah right like they force Cotto/Gomez right? F**k arum boxers do whats best for them and their family not for Arum and his boxers.

Good post.

[MaTTuP]

Calzaghe is adding yet another fighter (RJ) to his list of washed up/euro bum fighters he has fought.
It will surely bomb if it is a ppv.

[WESS]

Enzo himself in several interviews including Warren, said it's upto Joe who he fights. Joe openly said from the start Roy was his 1st preference, and HE ALONE has arranged it, without even a promoter. So your factually completely wrong.

WESS, you really must stop talking about what you clearly don't know about, and just assume to suite your bias.

ok two things:

1. That just proves Calzaghe DUCKED Pavlik... lol

2. There is a thread somewhere on here ALREADY saying that JOEY'S PEOPLE didn't WANT him to fight PAVLIK. Remember at first they did, UP UNTIL PAVLIK DESTROYED ***** ASS LOCKETT, THEEEEEEEN Joes people are like what a min. Pavlik is not worthy, and that he was a nobody.. Joe went after Jones for the money... that's cool... but don't try and tell me they were all about fighting PAVLIK.... because at FIRST.. YES, then they had a SERIOUS CHANGE OF HEART.. and it was all Jones.. which is cool. don't get me wrong I want to see it just as much as any other guy. But the fact is Joe ducked the **** out of Pavlik and his people didn't want him to fight him after he destroyed Lockett like a little ***** that he is TOO. It's cool dude, hey atleast Joe's not fighting "THE LATIN SNAKE" for his so called last fight...

[WESS]

Calzaghe is adding yet another fighter (RJ) to his list of washed up/euro bum fighters he has fought.
It will surely bomb if it is a ppv.

naa man, I dont think it will... I think Joe's fans will really make the numbers HIGH.. Jones fans will do so so.....

[Kris Silver]

ok two things:

1. That just proves Calzaghe DUCKED Pavlik... lol

2. There is a thread somewhere on here ALREADY saying that JOEY'S PEOPLE didn't WANT him to fight PAVLIK. Remember at first they did, UP UNTIL PAVLIK DESTROYED ***** ASS LOCKETT, THEEEEEEEN Joes people are like what a min. Pavlik is not worthy, and that he was a nobody.. Joe went after Jones for the money... that's cool... but don't try and tell me they were all about fighting PAVLIK.... because at FIRST.. YES, then they had a SERIOUS CHANGE OF HEART.. and it was all Jones.. which is cool. don't get me wrong I want to see it just as much as any other guy. But the fact is Joe ducked the **** out of Pavlik and his people didn't want him to fight him after he destroyed Lockett like a little ***** that he is TOO. It's cool dude, hey atleast Joe's not fighting "THE LATIN SNAKE" for his so called last fight...

1. In what twisted way is that? You believe what you want to believe clearly.

2. A thread saying something is not proof of anything, if you credit anything you find on a public forum then your very naive. Once again, the facts on that area are;

After Pavlik as expected by everyone, beat Lockett, Warren openly said he was in discussions with Arum, he wanted Joe to take that fight and it's one reason why Joe has dumped Warren. There's press conferences and interviews out there with Arum saying he's been in lengthy discussions with Frank Warren over a fight with Joe, and both sides are interested. Warren also said this post Lockett, and said the fights there if Joe wants it.

Joe has long said Roy was his #1 preference, and if HE didn't pull the deal off with Roy, he'd have fought his #2 preference in Pavlik, hence saying so openly several times, he's not ****** enough to say such things then duck, he'd just say nothing at all. He got his 1st preference fight, which he was open about, and it's going ahead, if anything to the dismay of Warren.

Dude, all due respect but educate yourself on the basic facts before saying things that go against them, it's getting a little desperate, seriously.

[WESS]

Enzo himself in several interviews including Warren, said it's upto Joe who he fights. Joe openly said from the start Roy was his 1st preference, and HE ALONE has arranged it, without even a promoter. So your factually completely wrong.

WESS, you really must stop talking about what you clearly don't know about, and just assume to suite your bias.

I will say you are correct about ENZO in certain interviews... I've seen where he said its up to joe and then I've seen him say he WILL not fight Pavlik because PAVLIK hasn't proved himself and is a nobody. Which is a typical excuse you always get from him...

[TommyGunn.]

ok two things:

1. That just proves Calzaghe DUCKED Pavlik... lol

2. There is a thread somewhere on here ALREADY saying that JOEY'S PEOPLE didn't WANT him to fight PAVLIK. Remember at first they did, UP UNTIL PAVLIK DESTROYED ***** ASS LOCKETT, THEEEEEEEN Joes people are like what a min. Pavlik is not worthy, and that he was a nobody.. Joe went after Jones for the money... that's cool... but don't try and tell me they were all about fighting PAVLIK.... because at FIRST.. YES, then they had a SERIOUS CHANGE OF HEART.. and it was all Jones.. which is cool. don't get me wrong I want to see it just as much as any other guy. But the fact is Joe ducked the **** out of Pavlik and his people didn't want him to fight him after he destroyed Lockett like a little ***** that he is TOO. It's cool dude, hey atleast Joe's not fighting "THE LATIN SNAKE" for his so called last fight...

How can he duck a fighter two weights below him?

Pavlik needs to be fighting Arthur Abraham and not worry himself about Calzaghe.

[WESS]

1. In what twisted way is that? You believe what you want to believe clearly.

2. A thread saying something is not proof of anything, if you credit anything you find on a public forum then your very naive. Once again, the facts on that area are;

After Pavlik as expected by everyone, beat Lockett, Warren openly said he was in discussions with Arum, he wanted Joe to take that fight and it's one reason why Joe has dumped Warren. There's press conferences and interviews out there with Arum saying he's been in lengthy discussions with Frank Warren over a fight with Joe, and both sides are interested. Warren also said this post Lockett, and said the fights there if Joe wants it.

Joe has long said Roy was his #1 preference, and if HE didn't pull the deal off with Roy, he'd have fought his #2 preference in Pavlik, hence saying so openly several times, he's not ****** enough to say such things then duck, he'd just say nothing at all. He got his 1st preference fight, which he was open about, and it's going ahead, if anything to the dismay of Warren.

Dude, all due respect but educate yourself on the basic facts before saying things that go against them, it's getting a little desperate, seriously.

dude I've read them say BOTH... it doesn't really matter because he IS fighting Jones and LIKE STATED ALREADY I see him WIN or LOOSE coming back and fighting the guy he "DUCKED" or as you put it, his # 2. The money will be too good to not take it. WHICH was my point in the first post. EITHER win or loose Joe will be back. The money will be there.

[WESS]

How can he duck a fighter two weights below him?

Pavlik needs to be fighting Arthur Abraham and not worry himself about Calzaghe.

heeeeeey look who it is!!!!!!!!!