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Manny Pacquiao To Face Humberto Soto on November 15

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  • Originally posted by Black Jesus View Post
    He did what he could do, but Guzman was far too skilled, call it running or whatever the **** you want, but guzman is winning that fight 10 out of 10 times, if soto doesnt have the speed and footwork to cut off the ring and prevent his movement, thats his problem.
    Running in and of itself, though, doesn't equate to winning. Look, I had Guzman winning, but not by much. Maybe 2 or 3 rounds at the most. He did enough to win, but didn't really look good doing so. There's something to be said about effective aggression which is what Soto showed. It's not like Soto wasn't landing any punches throughout the fight, they just didn't seem to have much of an effect. Probably because Guzman outweighed him by so much.

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    • Originally posted by boofdatruth View Post
      Until Pac fights Valero, he is a fraud.
      Lmao, I love it!! I one post you say "I don't accuse fighters of ducking each other". Then you write this. Tell us hypocrit, whats the difference?

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      • Originally posted by miron_lang View Post
        Humberto sotto is a better fighter than Valero . There's no doubt Sotto UD's or even kayoes him if they fight right now.

        BUT i still want PAC-Valero better...
        i agree with you bro...

        although sotto fight will be a better fight, i was hoping that pac gives valero his first L...

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        • Originally posted by Black Jesus View Post
          Soto would kill valero, Soto has been in with better comp and Valero couldnt just blow him out like everyone else, Have you seen Soto juarez? Juarez landed fairly well on Soto, unless you are telling me ValerO IS A BIGGER pucnher than Juarez, especially at 126, i dont see how Valero would somehow grow a defense and blow out Soto.
          valero never fought at 126, i think he hits harder than juarez at 130 and up, imho its not that easy to KO all the fighters he faced and most of them in the first round ...

          and sotto is not that invincible Bobby pacquiao almost got lucky, i do agree that sotto can/will beat valero, but valero doeas have a BIG punchers chances...

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          • Originally posted by JOM'S View Post
            valero never fought at 126, i think he hits harder than juarez at 130 and up, imho its not that easy to KO all the fighters he faced and most of them in the first round ...

            and sotto is not that invincible Bobby pacquiao almost got lucky, i do agree that sotto can/will beat valero, but valero doeas have a BIG punchers chances...
            Valero has fought at 126 but very early in his career, the number sticks out in my mind only because of some article i read about 3 months ago. I mentioned the Bobby Pacquiao fight earlier. I really dont care about big knockout ratios because unless they came against people who matter, it doesnt mean all that much, i have never been overly impressed with Valero, but Soto has been in there with some people who have mattered, which is why i rate him as having a much better chance then Valero.

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            • Originally posted by DiegoFuego View Post
              this might be a fun fight, but it is really pointless considering Guzman already handled Soto
              not really pointless, guzman has very different style than pac ...

              i see this fight will be better than pac-diaz and sotto will give pac more probs...

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              • Originally posted by Black Jesus View Post
                Valero has fought at 126 but very early in his career, the number sticks out in my mind only because of some article i read about 3 months ago. I mentioned the Bobby Pacquiao fight earlier. I really dont care about big knockout ratios because unless they came against people who matter, it doesnt mean all that much, i have never been overly impressed with Valero, but Soto has been in there with some people who have mattered, which is why i rate him as having a much better chance then Valero.
                thanks for clarifying, i did not know valero fought at 126, i always thought he fought at SFW from the beginning making him the bigger guy ...

                I also consider Sotto has a better chance than Valero against pac, but probably i am impressed with all those KO's, pac fought a lot of unknown fighters early in his career and he did not came close to what valero did, so i give respect to the puncher or at least gives him the puncher's chance to beat anybody including pac & sotto...

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                • Originally posted by JOM'S View Post
                  thanks for clarifying, i did not know valero fought at 126, i always thought he fought at SFW from the beginning making him the bigger guy ...

                  I also consider Sotto has a better chance than Valero against pac, but probably i am impressed with all those KO's, pac fought a lot of unknown fighters early in his career and he did not came close to what valero did, so i give respect to the puncher or at least gives him the puncher's chance to beat anybody including pac & sotto...
                  Alot of fighters coming out of latin america, especially columbia/venezuela/etc come out with these ridiculous KO ratios because they preach power punching down there, it quickly gets exposed in the face of a credible fighter. Very few born KO artists become credible fighters based on that alone, and Valero honestly doesnt have much else.

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                  • Originally posted by Alibata View Post
                    Antillon blastin through Manny??? LOL... Bobby Pac looked like he was on par with him till Anitllon got him with a Penalosaesqe body shot...Manny is 10 levels above Bobby... Antillon is good but still unprooven and Bobby Pac was his biggest win..
                    lol On par? You ****in with me? lmao the fight lasted one round.

                    Bobby was way too small and way too weak to **** with Urbano's punches. Leading up to the knock out Paq ate just minor shots, JUST minor shots, and he immediately started movin backwards. The head shots were stingin, the body shots were just bound to tender him up if not break his ribs.

                    And Bobby Pac's tiny body with that 1 round is Antillons biggest win? lol What the **** are you on!? his last fight with Cruz was hands down his biggest win. Cruz, thick ass Colombian kid with the wing span of a Welterweight. Antillon used his quickness and sharpness to break him down, THAT was his biggest win. lol Not some fragile Bobby Paq that ended the moment Urbano started to throw real shots, lol C'mon use your ****in eyes to watch these fights.

                    And yes, Antillon is fast and strong enough to walk straight through Manny. Manny had free shots on Diaz for 9 straight rounds, it took that long to finish him off, and Diaz wasn't even throwin anything back lmao, and still took 9 rounds of flush shots and punches that broke the guard. At lightweight Paq's slower and weaker then he was at 130, and baiting Featherweights to come up, lol **** outta here, thats just lame.



                    Soto should seriously just let this one slide. Because fighting Paq at lightweight, this is how it's gonna look.


                    It's gonna be a ****er for the first 2 or 3, maybe 4 rounds. Some knockdowns most likely, and since Soto isn't a ****in Lightweight, since Soto doesn't throw down nutritional supplements with every meal lmao, after those first 4 rounds if not sooner, he's not gonna have much left. He doesn't give enough angles as it is anyways, which means he's gonna be exposed to all of Paq's own angles after those first 4 rounds. At 130..lol When both of them were little and skinny ****ers, Soto could have taxed that chin. But because Soto's best assests are his short skinny sharp punches he wouldn't make a good lightweight. It's gonna slow him down to move up. He's PERFECT at superfeather, his body is built for that.

                    As for Antillon, lol Manny can throw down all the nutrion he can fit down his neck, he still won't be able to **** with a natural big lightweight in Urbano. Manny's best asset against Antillion would be his already unorthodox south-paw style. That awkward left hand and the angles it comes from etc etc..

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                    • Originally posted by boofdatruth View Post
                      Until Pac fights Valero, he is a fraud.


                      Since you've been wetting your panties everytime a Pac/Valero fight is being mentioned, are you willing to put some money where your mouth is? Paypal is good if this fight happens...

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