This is how it would really be if Wlad was Black and American

[Drunk Punch]

If Wlad was american and dominant, and did what he did against sultan, tell me what you think the response would be on shows like PTI, Around the Horn and sportscenter. They would be tearing him a new *******. And in the blurbs in ESPN the magazine and SI, they would be probably saying **** like "This is our heavyweight champion? what a sad state boxing is in today"

I'm not American, so I'll have to take your word on that. But let's consider a few other things: he's a highly intelligent, articulate and well adjusted guy. He's got a decent record (in an admittedly weak division) and he's quite likely to unify the division. There is no-one else in America even close to accomplishing what Wlad could. Surely the public would get behind him. Okay his style isn't the best, but honestly what is there to dislike about him?

As for Mayweather, he was a phenomenal boxer but an arse of a man. Hence the love/hate relationship with the public. You can still be notorious (even hated) and be immensely popular - see Tyson.

[ALT-Assassin]

It's been such a long time since America had a dominant HW champ (Holyfield) that I think the public would accept Wlad with open arms. This is not a HW era to be picky or choosy (Larry Holmes) you are not spoilt for choice or quality. So I think Wlad would be hugely popular whatever his color or ethnicity.

Why would Americans care for a Heavyweight champion when the biggest fight in it is Thompson vs Klitchko. There are so many more exciting fights in the lower weight classes Vasquez-Marquez,Pavlik-Taylor I,Cotto-Marg,I could go on and on.If you are not American don't try to gauge our opinions.

[El Jesus]

Then why are you going on about it? Of course you care about the heavyweight division, but you hate it right now because the top fighters are from Eastern Europe.

I am responding to your thread since you had me on ignore like a ***** because i didint agree with your obvious agenda.

I bet you're saying there's no talent at middleweight and super-middleweight now too? You're not happy with those divisions either.

The only fighters worth watching at Mw/smw are Calzhage, Pavlik, Abraham, Taylor and possibly lacy if he gets himself in some kind of shape. For the most part, those divisions bore me. At LHW at least there is Adamek, Dawson and Tarver and possibly the others i mentioned if they move up. I watch lower weights mostly, its what i have watched my whole life. Get over it.

You consider whites to be athletically inferior, but the truth is, other things (training, desire to win, diet, focus) are what determines boxing ability, not race.

I NEVER said this, NEVER have said this NEVER will say this. Get the **** outta here. Stop making **** up.

[ALT-Assassin]

I am responding to your thread since you had me on ignore like a ***** because i didint agree with your obvious agenda.



The only fighters worth watching at Mw/smw are Calzhage, Pavlik, Abraham, Taylor and possibly lacy if he gets himself in some kind of shape. For the most part, those divisions bore me. At LHW at least there is Adamek, Dawson and Tarver and possibly the others i mentioned if they move up. I watch lower weights mostly, its what i have watched my whole life. Get over it.





I NEVER said this, NEVER have said this NEVER will say this. Get the **** outta here. Stop making **** up.

The funny thing is Tunny is the one who brought race into this with his thread
and yet he has the nerve to call you racist.

[Guest]

You gotta admit though Black Jesus, Danny Williams is the most popular fighter in the sport today. And I have to ask myself "is this just due to his amazing skills?"

I don't know if I can honestly answer that.

[El Jesus]

The funny thing is Tunny is the one who brought race into this with his thread
and yet he has the nerve to call you racist.

What annoys me is the idea that being european is a reason as to why i would dislike someone, or being white or whatever. I dare you to go look through my posting history and find any instance where i ragged on a fighter because i felt he was genetically inferior because of his race, thats so ****ing ******. I dont make copout excuses like that.

Whats worse is that if this idiot knew any better, basketball is my favorite sport and its loaded with eastern europeans who can play and are funadmentally sound ballplayers, the center on my team is eastern european and hes really loved out here in the bay area. So just the general idea that i would even think something like that is ****ing ******ed and just a way for him to deviate the argument into something juvenile.

[El Jesus]

You gotta admit though Black Jesus, Danny Williams is the most popular fighter in the sport today. And I have to ask myself "is this just due to his amazing skills?"

I don't know if I can honestly answer that.

Its probably his lovely smile.

[ALT-Assassin]

What annoys me is the idea that being european is a reason as to why i would dislike someone, or being white or whatever. I dare you to go look through my posting history and find any instance where i ragged on a fighter because i felt he was genetically inferior because of his race, thats so ****ing ******. I dont make copout excuses like that.

Whats worse is that if this idiot knew any better, basketball is my favorite sport and its loaded with eastern europeans who can play and are funadmentally sound ballplayers, the center on my team is eastern european and hes really loved out here in the bay area. So just the general idea that i would even think something like that is ****ing ******ed and just a way for him to deviate the argument into something juvenile.

The only way Tunny knows how to defend his fighter is to pull the race card.Which has to be one of the worst excuses out there considering Pavlik is respected by the black people I know.I seen some crazy excuses for the Klitchkos,"He was poisned""Lewis was scared into retirement"The American media is racist against Klitchko" even tho they air all of his fights

[squealpiggy]

You keep bringing up Wlad's losses, Black Jesus, but he's won every fight since 2004. If he was black, you wouldn't hate him so much and keep going on about those losses, now would you?

You're proving my point.

You're pretending all of Wlad's wins by brutal KO never happened (Austin, Brock, Barrett, Byrd, etc.).

Isn't the point of putting someone on ignore to avoid having to read their posts if, for example, they are constantly flaming you? If you are putting people on ignore and then reading their posts then you have them on ignore to prevent them from commenting on your own threads and that is abusing the system. Maybe I should start reporting you.

[The Hammer]

Isn't the point of putting someone on ignore to avoid having to read their posts if, for example, they are constantly flaming you? If you are putting people on ignore and then reading their posts then you have them on ignore to prevent them from commenting on your own threads and that is abusing the system. Maybe I should start reporting you.

Reporting me for that would make you seem like a real crybaby to the mods, so go ahead.

Keepin that karma thing (my reply to you posting that I'm gay) on your sig makes you look rather foolish...