Was Tito [i]shot[/i] when he fought Winky?

[Silencers]

thats crazy... thats exactly how roy knocked him down the second time... a solid jab

Yeah, I was actually surprised he didn't use his jab more but that torn tricep probably had something to do with it.

After hearing the commentary in the Wright fight I knew immediately that Tito had no chance in hell of beating Jones.

Same here, after hearing commentary that Jones did for a few Trinidad fights, I knew that Jones had the perfect tactics to beat Tito.

[Ray*]

I think the Tito that fought Winky was just past his prime, Even though Winky had the perfect plan to beat him a prime Tito would still have done something different, Oppose to standing right in front of Winky No head movement and eating the jab all night long.

[Mr. Ryan]

Well obviously 147 was Tito's best weight, by far. He had a few decent wins at MW, and a few more at JMW. I think Winky would always have been a bad matchup for him, I just have a hard time believing Tito was totally shot when they did fight.

He didn't look that driven in the fight. He pretty much gave up on himself by the second half of the fight. But yeah Winky would always be hell for him.

[Live Dog]

Yeah Livedog was saying Winky's win over Tito didn't mean anything because Tito was waaaaay past his prime, and then in another post he said Tito was shot.

When did I say it didn't mean anything??

[Jim Jeffries]

When did I say it didn't mean anything??

You completely discredited the win by saying Tito was shot.

[Live Dog]

You completely discredited the win when you said Tito was shot.

Well, it wasn't a great win. Fighting and beating Tito at 154 in 2005 isn't anything to jump up and down about.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, it wasn't a great win. Fighting and beating Tito at 154 in 2005 isn't anything to jump up and down about.

When you beat an ATG like Tito, that had been somewhat active, that had KO'd 5 of his last 6 opponents, and you completely dominate him the way Winky did, yes it is.

[Mr. Ryan]

Well, it wasn't a great win. Fighting and beating Tito at 154 in 2005 isn't anything to jump up and down about.

The fight was contested at 160.

[Live Dog]

The fight was contested at 160.

even better...

[The Surgeon]

Yeah, I was actually surprised he didn't use his jab more but that torn tricep probably had something to do with it.



Same here, after hearing commentary that Jones did for a few Trinidad fights, I knew that Jones had the perfect tactics to beat Tito.

Roy Jones talks some SERIOUS Sense man, he KNOWS boxing big time! EXCEPT when talking about Roy Jones!

Anyway my take is Wink gives Tito trouble whenever they fought but Felix had lost alot of passion for the sport rather than physically deteriated. U know when a guy has retired his heart aint quite in it no mo