Was Tito [i]shot[/i] when he fought Winky?

[Jim Jeffries]

After having won 5 of his last 6 fights by knockout, one lone loss on his record to the larger Bernard Hopkins (a 36 year old Hopkins, ie prime Hopkins, at that.) He was not inactive, only 7 months having elapsed since his destruction of Mayorga. Was he shot?

[Mr. Ryan]

Tito was a middleweight puncher when he fought Mayorga, who had failed to make weight for his last fight at junior middleweight and was grossly out of shape since losing the Spinks fight. Mayorga was set up just to take a beating, nothing more really.

Winky was his true test and Trinidad failed that with flying colors.

[Silencers]

Not shot, he was out of his weightclass and fighting against a guy with the perfect style to beat him.

As Roy Jones said years earlier when doing commentary, Tito puts a lot of weight on his front foot, a solid jab would knock him off balance so he wouldn't be able to get his rhythm going, Winky used his jab perfectly.

[THE REED]

Not shot, he was out of his weightclass and fighting against a guy with the perfect style to beat him.

As Roy Jones said years earlier when doing commentary, Tito puts a lot of weight on his front foot, a solid jab would knock him off balance so he wouldn't be able to get his rhythm going, Winky used his jab perfectly.

thats crazy... thats exactly how roy knocked him down the second time... a solid jab

[Mr. Ryan]

thats crazy... thats exactly how roy knocked him down the second time... a solid jab

After hearing the commentary in the Wright fight I knew immediately that Tito had no chance in hell of beating Jones.

[Jim Jeffries]

Tito was a middleweight puncher when he fought Mayorga, who had failed to make weight for his last fight at junior middleweight and was grossly out of shape since losing the Spinks fight. Mayorga was set up just to take a beating, nothing more really.

Winky was his true test and Trinidad failed that with flying colors.

Well obviously 147 was Tito's best weight, by far. He had a few decent wins at MW, and a few more at JMW. I think Winky would always have been a bad matchup for him, I just have a hard time believing Tito was totally shot when they did fight.

[el malo]

naw he wasn't shot, winky was just the wrong matchup for tito, great defense and a good jab is kryptonite to tito

[MELLY-MEL...]

he was not totally shot by any means.

[Live Dog]

Shot, way past his prime, whatever....they're all just words to describe a fighter that is a shell of what they once were. The 2005 Tito that fought Winky wasn't anywhere near the fighter that whooped up on Vargas in 2000.

And as I said in the other thread, with Tito retiring as many times as he has my guess is he knew it too.

[Jim Jeffries]

he was not totally shot by any means.

Yeah Livedog was saying Winky's win over Tito didn't mean anything because Tito was waaaaay past his prime, and then in another post he said Tito was shot.