Rank the Lightweights

[Run]

I like Raheem, but he underachieves big time. He could have had that Freitas fight if he stepped it up but he was too concerned with getting hit.

I doubt Pacquiao's people would ever put him in with Pacquiao because Raheem's style makes everyone look bad, win or lose.

Yeah. What a dismal fight that was.

And I'll be the first to say I'm not the Raheem season ticket holder. I mean his style is boring and frustrating. I just simply see the potential greatness in him.

I mean I bet you see that also. He's some skilled fighter.



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[Mr. Ryan]

i didn't say it was a positive. but he'll learn from it. just because he won by ko doesn't mean it was conclusive that joel is better.

a guy can fail to ko someone and get a decision and you can tell that there is no way the other guy could ever beat him.

just as you can KTFO someone and it not be a conclusive who is better type win.

if katsidis and joel were to rematch next year who would you put money on? i'd put it on katsidis.

i have joan , juan and juan ma above nate , michael and joel because i think all 3 will win their fights this year.

Juan Manuel Marquez is rated above Campbell, even though he has never fought at lightweight?

Why did Campbell fight for the belts anyways when he wasn't going to be recognized as a champion even if he won?

I'd say dropping a guy who has a serious age advantage over you three times and then KTFO him is ample evidence that Casamayor, the winner, is better than the defeated Katsidis.

Just because someone has less defeats doesn't make him better. People worship and idolize people with undefeated records, until they lose that is.

I'd put my money on Casamayor because he figured out Katsidis and was able to KTFO him.

[Left Hook Tua]

There are no excuses in boxing. If you have a bad day, then that was your mistake for not scheduling the bad day correctly.

Until proven otherwise, why would you discredit a clear and decisive win until the champion is beaten in the ring? These "old" guys Campbell and Casamayor both whooped on much younger fighters. What does age have to do with anything if you don't have the skills to match it?

Is the only way to explain Giovanni Lorenzo getting whipped by Raul Marquez that he had a "bad day?"

They got whooped, give the winner credit.

i know that. a loss is a loss and a win is a win.

but this list is what i think the division will look like at the end of the year.

if guzman , marquez and diaz wins like i think they will. my list will look better. i'll even bump this thread to brag. ha ha ha

[Mr. Ryan]

Yeah. What a dismal fight that was.

And I'll be the first to say I'm not the Raheem season ticket holder. I mean his style is boring and frustrating. I just simply see the potential greatness in him.

I mean I bet you see that also. He's some skilled fighter.

I see that he's a very skilled fighter with the reflexes to throw anyone off their game. I also see that in a lot of fights, his boxing philosophy gets in the way of himself sometimes and hurts his chances of winning fights. He tries to outpoint you by thin margins every round, which doesn't work well at the highest level of the pros.

[Mr. Ryan]

i know that. a loss is a loss and a win is a win.

but this list is what i think the division will look like at the end of the year.

if guzman , marquez and diaz wins like i think they will. my list will look better. i'll even bump this thread to brag. ha ha ha

I'd say that matched tough again and Katsidis will take another loss. You can bump that.

[Run]

I see that he's a very skilled fighter with the reflexes to throw anyone off their game. I also see that in a lot of fights, his boxing philosophy gets in the way of himself sometimes and hurts his chances of winning fights. He tries to outpoint you by thin margins every round, which doesn't work well at the highest level of the pros.

Yeah he beats himself.

Also I'm not furthering some type of nuthug agenda, but good luck beating the guy. I'm serious. What would people say if he got a shot at Pac........and totally annihalated him every round and won the LW Championship? Pac can't deal with that slickness.



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[Mr. Ryan]

Yeah he beats himself.

Also I'm not furthering some type of nuthug agenda, but good luck beating the guy. I'm serious. What would people say if he got a shot at Pac........and totally annihalated him every round and won the LW Championship? Pac can't deal with that slickness.

Raheem is fighting to be the mandatory of the IBF belt, which Campbell holds. He'd probably have to fight the winner of Campbell-Guzman. Raheem is going to have his hands full trying to prove to the hometown judges in South Africa that he beat Ali Funeka, especially after infuriating the promoter.

[Run]

Raheem is fighting to be the mandatory of the IBF belt, which Campbell holds. He'd probably have to fight the winner of Campbell-Guzman. Raheem is going to have his hands full trying to prove to the hometown judges in South Africa that he beat Ali Funeka, especially after infuriating the promoter.

Yeah I know.

However, a knockout victory against a tune up and a overseas fight with someone who has a shockingly high rating at lightweight is what Raheem needs to get himself back into real contention.



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[sylvestersweet]

1) Marquez
2) Pacman
3) Campbell
4) Juan Diaz
5) Jose Armando Santa Cruz
6) Joan Guzman
7) Joel Casamayor
8) Michael Katsidis
9) Amir Khan
10) Julio Diaz

[Run]

1) Marquez 6) Joan Guzman
2) Pacman 7) Joel Casamayor
3) Campbell 8) Michael Katsidis
4) Juan Diaz 9) Amir Khan
5) Jose Armando Santa Cruz 10) Julio Diaz

Right. Amir Kahn. K.



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