Calzaghe's Done A Complete U-turn.

[bsrizpac]

Tito is Hopkins biggest win and you yanks never had a problem with him being a blown up WW then, same with DLH.

Jones hasn't lost in three years and is ranked at LHW, is the biggest payday for JC and will prove once and for all who was the best P4P fighter of this generation.

Uh no it won't you ****ing ******.

[TheManchine]

Jones hasn't lost in three years and is ranked at LHW, is the biggest payday for JC and will prove once and for all who was the best P4P fighter of this generation.

[T-97]

Yeah, i agree with that.

Calzaghe Vs Past prime Roy

How the hell does that proove whos the best P4P fighter of the generation!?!

[bsrizpac]

Yeah, i agree with that.

Calzaghe Vs Past prime Roy

How the hell does that proove whos the best P4P fighter of the generation!?!

Agreed. SEE. THIS is what I posting about earlier. I knew some of the Calz fans would start talking like this.

That's why this fight stinks. And Calz stinks because he'll do the same damn thing.

[TheManchine]

Agreed. SEE. THIS is what I posting about earlier. I knew some of the Calz fans would start talking like this.

That's why this fight stinks. And Calz stinks because he'll do the same damn thing.

exactly thats what i dont like,

its going to be made out like calzaghe beat a prime roy jones,

and that he had a better career and that kind of ****,

this fight proves nothing,

roy was done a long time ago,

[bsrizpac]

exactly thats what i dont like,

its going to be made out like calzaghe beat a prime roy jones,

and that he had a better career and that kind of ****,

this fight proves nothing,

roy was done a long time ago,

It's funny how I was talking about this the whole thread and certain UK posters were acting like I was making it up and then...like clockwork, here comes Jonny Rebel to prove my point.

[Kris Silver]

The anti needs to stop guys, seriously - it's ridiculous. Where it comes from I don't know.

Most completely accept Roy is past his prime, I've heard virtually no one say it's a near to prime Roy. So where's that come from, why are you saying that?

The difference is your negativenes is so relentless it's annoying, I've seen far more ppl completely exaggerating the extent of how past prime Roy is, and how bad Calz fans are, what theyre's saying etc., versus Calzaghe fans saying even 10% of what your making out. Plus some are just joking, others not worth taking much notice of.

Serious guys, your taking in way out of context.

[bsrizpac]

The anti needs to stop guys, seriously - it's ridiculous. Where it comes from I don't know.

Most completely accept Roy is past his prime, I've heard virtually no one say it's a near to prime Roy. So where's that come from, why are you saying that?

The difference is your negativenes is so relentless it's annoying, I've seen far more ppl completely exaggerating the extent of how past prime Roy is, and how bad Calz fans are, what theyre's saying etc., versus Calzaghe fans saying even 10% of what your making out. Plus some are just joking, others not worth taking much notice of.

Serious guys, your taking in way out of context.

Once again I can start posting names of posters who have said this.
It's a nice list and covers maybe all but three or four of the big Calz fans on this forum.

[P4P Opinion]

LOL..

Calzaghe, stays contradicting himself..

"I want Pavlik, I'll go back down to 168 to fight him"
-After the Lockett fight,
"I want Roy Jones, he is a legend"

WOW..
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He then says Pavlik has to prove himself, but, Pavlik has fought better opposition in the last 2 years than in Joes long career lol.. (a bit exagerated)

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In the 90's Joe admitted that he didn't want to fight Roy Jones, "hes just too fast, I don't think i would be able to ever hit him"
- Joe now says that Jones was ducking him all these years, and that everyone is calling him out.. LOL
Joe stayed fighting in his backyard until 06..

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Theres probably most, but to me, this doode was a protected champ who fought in his backyard 95 percent of his career..

All his best wins have a catch..

Eubank - Old and shot
Lacy - Ill admit, that was his best win b/c I along with the majority of people thought Lacy would beat his ass.. But people say he was over rated..
Kessler - A good win.. I dont have anything bad to say about Kessler, but he isn't unbeatable.
Hopkins - 43 yr old champ, who made JC look so bad.. The fight was close as hell.. If a prime bhop were in there, I guarantee a victory for bhop.

They all had a catch.. Period.. I can't respect a mother ****er like that..
Even Floyd, I don't respect that mother****er..

I was going to bite my tounge, but this post has got praised twice. It doesn't deserve it. Look what I can do to the best wins of Roy's career:

Bernard Hopkins - Green
James Toney - weight drained
Mike McCallum - to borrow your phrase, "old and shot"
John Ruiz - Good achievement, but a paper champ
Antonio Tarver - Very overrated

To borrow your phrase again, "they all had a catch...period."

Do I really think any of this shit? No, of course not, I'm not an idiot. My point is that you can twist any win on any resume if you try hard enough. You and dozens of other prejudiced posters on this forum aren't giving Calzaghe his dues. I aint claiming it's the best resume of all time, but the fact remains that he cleaned up 168 and the huge fights just couldn't have been made without bending over and metaphorically taking it up the ass. Hopkins ducked Calzaghe by one day accepting an offer of $3m and the the next day demanding $6m in 2002. This was before his breakout win over Trinidad too. As I have posted time and time again, getting a fight with Roy would have been extremely difficult also. Calzaghe would have had to give up his belt, fight two or three ranking 175 fights for small money just for the slightest chance to make the fight. Even if he'd done that, he wouldn't have been able to claim more than 30% anyway.

I'm sick of being told the same ignorant shit. I'm also sick of the hypocrisy in American fans saying that Calzaghe fans are overrating him, while at the same time treating Kelly Pavlik like he's the second coming. Beating the literally defenceless Edison Miranda and the equally overrated, decision-lucky Jermain Taylor twice doesn't make a fighter proven. This is from a Pavlik fan, who is getting sick at the ridiculous double standards on show. As I've said before, I wouldn't even mind if Pavlik beat Calzaghe.

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