EdwinValero is going to knock PAcquiao out! Mark my words.

[MELLY-MEL...]

Who won? There are over 5000 boxers maybe more, and you are criticizing a man's comp because you don't or haven't seen them fight. How do you think European fans felt when they get a guy like Bradley who just beat a reigning champ in Witter. Those fans were saying the same thing about Bradley.

probably not a ****** as you look and feel around here on a daily basis!

[Left Hook Tua]

What about Mosquera? He was championship level. He was champion.

mosquera is a solid fighter who beat another good fighter the thai guy (please don't ask me to spell his name)

he's practically the only good name valero has on his record.

thanks a lot , benny. ha ha ha

there was a reason i only mentioned the last 4 of edwin's wins and not 5!!! :-)

[FilAmTKO]

Valero is good but over-rated

If a fight were to take place between Pacquiao and Valero, I envision a fast-paced slugfest. Knowing that Valero is untested in going up against top-shelf opponents, I don't think he will be as impressive in the ring against Pacquiao. Valero has a glass jaw and Pacman will exploit this to the extreme. Though Valero's speed is quite good, I just don't see him making it through 5 rounds of sustained action with Pacquiao.

Pacquiao has stepped-up his game plan against opponents. His defensive moves and upper-cuts are much improved and he looks to finish off any fighter with more explosive right hand leads followed by his signature straight left-hand. There's too much hype with Valero's boxing record being that most of his opponents were in the class of sparring partners.

[Boofdatruth]

probably not a ****** as you look and feel around here on a daily basis!

This was a great boxing answer. lol You should be locked up for impersonating a fan. You are a "yes" man. All you say is, he can't fight, he can fight. You then agree with everyone who makes the point you want to make, but can never think of yourself.

[baCCaT]

boof,

what do you think are valeros flaws if and when he gets to fight pac.?

[MELLY-MEL...]

This was a great boxing answer. lol You should be locked up for impersonating a fan. You are a "yes" man. All you say is, he can't fight, he can fight. You then agree with everyone who makes the point you want to make, but can never think of yourself.

actually no, you are just a douchebag, and have no ****ing clue what ur talking about, and everyone minus you agrees that your sucking valero off, and placing him above the number 1 p4p fighter on the planet when he has clearly not beaten anyone of pac's merit that would legitimize your claim valero would ko pac! it's all good, when valero does not knock pac out i am gonna own u on this board.

[BennyST]

yeah great example, mosquera! he fought no one himself, and lost to valero, but not b4 knocking him down in the 3rd! please!!!!!!!!!!!

So, as in the previous example, how is that any different at all from Pacquiao beating Ledwaba? See, what you are forgetting is that this started when a few people said it is easy to KO every opponent until you get to contender or championship level.

Well, actually it is very, very difficult. Only a few people I can think have been able to do it. Valero being one of them. He is a current champ who beat the previous champ via KO. Someone said Pacquiao would have done the same thing if he had fought the same competition. Well, up until Ledwaba and past he did fight the same type of competition and he couldn't do it. That is my point.

Mosquera is contender, championship level of the same caliber as Ledwaba. Actually, quite a bit better. Ledwaba is nowhere to be seen and has done absolutely nothing since losing to Pacquiao, yet people still bring him up as one of the best guys Pac has fought. He had not fought anyone and has fought no one since. How is that any different to where Valero is now? The champ that Mosquera beat for the title is still ten times the fighter anyone Ledwaba faced. He had actually beat quite a few good fighters.

The only difference at this stage of their respective careers is that Pacquiao had been knocked out cold twice and had not knocked out every one of his opponents. Can you see what I'm getting at here Mel? After all, that is what we're talking about. So what if Mosquera knocked him down. Did he win? No, he got knocked out. You might as well bring up when Pacquiao basically got knocked out by a jab from Hussein and then you could also bring up that the referee in the phillipines then screwed Hussein over and stopped the fight on a BS cut.

I don't think anyone is saying Valero has fought great competition because he hasn't. No one is denying that. We are, however, looking at certain facts of their respective careers and also their strengths. Valero has more power than Pacquiao and at a similar stage in their careers is still knocking out the better fighters he faced and the contenders/champion he faced instead of being knocked out so lose the sad sarcasm and try looking at it at face value. Do we still count Pacquiaos first title winning effort even though it was against an absolute nobody?

[BennyST]

mosquera is a solid fighter who beat another good fighter the thai guy (please don't ask me to spell his name)

he's practically the only good name valero has on his record.

thanks a lot , benny. ha ha ha

there was a reason i only mentioned the last 4 of edwin's wins and not 5!!! :-)

[noypi2]

I agree that if Valero hits pacman Flush Pacman will be out cold.

Valero has a whole different kinda power he is like the Earnie Shavers of the little guys or foreman.

He might take pacmans best punch and smile back pacman will have to throw 2000 punches to dent his armor and make him crumble.

The guy is a rock.

I've heard that in the past. We'll see!

[MELLY-MEL...]

So, as in the previous example, how is that any different at all from Pacquiao beating Ledwaba? See, what you are forgetting is that this started when a few people said it is easy to KO every opponent until you get to contender or championship level.

Well, actually it is very, very difficult. Only a few people I can think have been able to do it. Valero being one of them. He is a current champ who beat the previous champ via KO. Someone said Pacquiao would have done the same thing if he had fought the same competition. Well, up until Ledwaba and past he did fight the same type of competition and he couldn't do it. That is my point.

Mosquera is contender, championship level of the same caliber as Ledwaba. Actually, quite a bit better. Ledwaba is nowhere to be seen and has done absolutely nothing since losing to Pacquiao, yet people still bring him up as one of the best guys Pac has fought. He had not fought anyone and has fought no one since. How is that any different to where Valero is now? The champ that Mosquera beat for the title is still ten times the fighter anyone Ledwaba faced. He had actually beat quite a few good fighters.

The only difference at this stage of their respective careers is that Pacquiao had been knocked out cold twice and had not knocked out every one of his opponents. Can you see what I'm getting at here Mel? After all, that is what we're talking about. So what if Mosquera knocked him down. Did he win? No, he got knocked out. You might as well bring up when Pacquiao basically got knocked out by a jab from Hussein and then you could also bring up that the referee in the phillipines then screwed Hussein over and stopped the fight on a BS cut.

I don't think anyone is saying Valero has fought great competition because he hasn't. No one is denying that. We are, however, looking at certain facts of their respective careers and also their strengths. Valero has more power than Pacquiao and at a similar stage in their careers was still knocking out the better fighters he faced and the contenders/champion he faced instead of being knock out so lose the sad sarcasm and try looking at it at face value. Do we still count Pacquiaos first title winning effort even though it was against an absolute nobody?

thats all correct, but to say this kid is going to ko pac as the thread is title is a bit premature, and foolish. so lose the lengthy speech, and save that for someone who cares that you can run to boxrec,and spew a bunch of nonsense, yet leave out the reason i posted about how it's a joke to say valero WILL ko pac! unless of course your saying by valero koing mosquera, that it has lead you to believe that he would do the same to pac? if thats the case than i am wasting my time, and have nothing for ya! and you wanna talk about sad sarcasm read ur earlier post to the other guy, and step the **** off. hypocrite. it's ok though, really! don't cry champy!