Is Joe Calzaghe the best fighter Roy Jones will have fought?

[THE REED]

McCallum was a very, very good fighter who could do virtually everything in the ring but he was pretty old by the time he moved up to 175, he basically skipped 168 so in real life, I would have picked Calzaghe over him because of Calzaghe's natural size advantage and McCallum had a tendency to fade and tire towards the end of his fights when he got older so he could get outworked by Calzaghe, Calzaghe is a very good fighter as well, the best super middleweight in history IMO.

But pound for pound, if they were the same size, both in their prime, I'd pick McCallum.

now when you say best super middleweight......

[Jim Jeffries]

no. Bernard hopkins is. How can you say calzaghe when Hopkins just exposed Joe and made him look amateurish. What about tito Trinidad, p4p hes better than Joe.

Tito Trinidad, fighting at 170lbs when his best weight was 147. Tito Trinidad who hadn't had a single fight in the over 2 and a half years since being absolutely dominated by Winky Wright. That Tito Trinidad? GTFOOH.

[THE REED]

Tito Trinidad, fighting at 170lbs when his best weight was 147. Tito Trinidad who hadn't had a single fight in the over 2 and a half years since being absolutely dominated by Winky Wright. That Tito Trinidad? GTFOOH.

yeah that was a dumb post

[Silencers]

now when you say best super middleweight......

Jones didn't fight too long at the division, he had 6 fights there but had his best performance there against Pazienza, if he had stayed there longer, there would be no question about Jones being the best ever at 168.

[Dynamite Kid]

Hopkins exposed the fraudster had him hitting fresh air

Duke McKenzie a Calzaghe fan and Mike Tyson both thought he lost the fight and his dad thought he was losing by the sounds of it and Joe did not look convinced when the bell rang either

exposed by an old man

[Bad_Barracuda]

Yeah, I think Calzaghe is little bit better than both Hopkins and Toney. And I think these are the top 3. Ruiz was a heavyweight champion, but I have a hard time to compare him with these 3.

Why?...because Joe beat Tokker Pudwell?

C'mon.

If Joe were better than Tony and Hopkins he would have PROVEN it in the ring..

There is a REASON he never crossed the pond to face WBC..IBF..and WBA level talent.

There is a REASON he stayed in Wales fighting hinding behind that WBO crap-strap.

[TommyGunn.]

Robin Ried and Sakio Bika ran your hero close LMAO

At least Graham was a good fighter in his prime

Reid was on the slide and Bika is a complete bum a C Class fighter

add to this the fact that a 43 year old made Calzaghe look absolute garbage and u get the picture of how overated slappy really is

McCallum beat Elite fighters who did Slappy beat he was luck to get the decision against a 43 year old man

Calzaghe prime vs prime against Graham would have smashed him inside 6 rounds.

[Jim Jeffries]

yeah that was a dumb post

I mean the answer to the thread is no. Hopkins was pretty green, but James Toney was better than Calzaghe, when Roy fought him and overall.

[Kris Silver]

and how did u come to that conclusion? it was a hayemaker on the jaw bone

I think that was a reasonable post with several reasonable points, compliments, criticisms on both sides. Picking out the one remotely unfavourable on Roy is a little harsh. Tarvers a big big puncher no doubt, it was a good shot, but

a) it was a somewhat lucky shot and scenario Tarver got on Roy, as it was a competitive fight and not a roll of punches. Roy didn't even see it coming and was kinda out of position. Also, Joe doesn't duck and move back to the ropes like Roy did.

That same scenario doesn't equal a Joe KO because firstly, Joes noway near as open to a big over hand left. His stance is different. Joes more open to over hand rights, and Tarvers not so strong on that side, and it wouldnt have been such a hard shot to spot coming.

b) I'm sorry but Roy does not have a tough chin, and that's nothing new to be said. Even he was up by 8. Even if Tarver did land such a good shot on Joe (which per a I don't think is likely anyhow), Joe with a much tougher chin woulda been much less phazed, up by 5, clear headed by 8, and ready to go on. Plus, even at best, if Tarver landed that shot on Joe (which again I don't think likely, or as hard) it's not gona be much harder than the shots

a) Not saying Mitchell a tougher puncher, but he landed the hardest shot he's ever landed on a man, gotta be close to what Tarver landed which wasn't his. b) Kesslers lethal upper cuts which caught Joe perfectly on the jaw, with vicious pace totally knocking his head and making his face look like jelly. He carried on.

So were talking about 1 punch needing to be at least 20% harder than the one Tarver landed on Roy, or several of equal pace, which as I've outlined, I don't think likely.

[THE REED]

Jones didn't fight too long at the division, he had 6 fights there but had his best performance there against Pazienza, if he had stayed there longer, there would be no question about Jones being the best ever at 168.

as far as longevity, of course calzaghe.... but do u think the best joe at SMW can beat the best roy at SMW?