If Pac fights Hatton, he is a fraud. Fight the undefeated ko artist Valero fraud!

[Boofdatruth]

More people than would buy the fight against Valero. Lol!!!

Israel Vasquez was knocked out by Marquez the 1st fight and people couldnt wait 4 him to fight again.

Quintana got demolished by cotto and 2 fights later went on to win a world title against williams.

Not if it is promoted right. Izzy had to quit because of his nose. So stop it please lol.

[Boofdatruth]

yeah, who would buy a fight between 2 huge draws such as pac, and hatton? gimme a ****ing break. you really can not be this ******! can u?

Yeah, but Arum is trying to make the Valero fight? Why did he deny that hatton is next? Why is he doing that when he can make millions making a fight with Hatton? lol

[shadeyfizzle]

I'll keep it simple, Nobody. He has a 130 belt, and is willing to put his record, and rep on the line to face Pac now what? Who did you see ricardo Torres beat that before he knocked cotto down, and almost out that you knew of?

I'll keep it simple. You are right. That's how young talent get put on the map. Pacquiao was virtually untested when he shocked the world by beating Marco Antonio Barerra.

But if Barrera had never fought Pacquiao and went straight to Morales would you have considered him a fraud?

[shadeyfizzle]

Not if it is promoted right. Izzy had to quit because of his nose. So stop it please lol.

Marquez made the guy quit on his stool!!! that's just as bad as gettin ktfo. But he came back and took the trilogy.

[Boofdatruth]

Not if it is promoted right. Izzy had to quit because of his nose. So stop it please lol.

I have never had anything bad to say about Pac. Ever. I gave him a pass since he had that tough fight with Marquez. When it was reported there was a possibility that he could fight Hatton, i said to myself, Why has he not faced Valero or Guzman. Guzman was dismissed when HBO showcased him as a boxer who won't stand still so that Pac could hit him, and was a risk fight. They saw Sspinks-Mayorga all over again. He didn't fight either guy at 130. WHY????????

[Boofdatruth]

Marquez made the guy quit on his stool!!! that's just as bad as gettin ktfo. But he came back and took the trilogy.

As fans, you and myself were elated that a trilogy was made. I even welcomed the Morales trilogy also leading up until i heard Morales needed a nutritionist. Those are the types of fights I loved seeing PAc fight. He can't fight every last top 10 fighter, but Valero and Guzman are deserving. Fans asking who have they beat because they don't recognize a name is ridiculous. You can tell who they are a fan of. Shadey, you seem to be a good poster, and have very good arguments. You aren't just a dismiss kind of guy. I like that. I just want to see Pac face one of the 2.

[shadeyfizzle]

I have never had anything bad to say about Pac. Ever. I gave him a pass since he had that tough fight with Marquez. When it was reported there was a possibility that he could fight Hatton, i said to myself, Why has he not faced Valero or Guzman. Guzman was dismissed when HBO showcased him as a boxer who won't stand still so that Pac could hit him, and was a risk fight. They saw Sspinks-Mayorga all over again. He didn't fight either guy at 130. WHY????????

Because he was busy fighting older past prime but more credible fighters. You forget that Guzman and Valero both only won their titles recently. And Guzman is older than Pac. Before that Morales was THE man at that division. no ifs ands or buts about it. Then Barrera beat him for the title. If you're a featherweight moving up in weight who wouldnt you want to fight if not for those guys??

[shadeyfizzle]

As fans, you and myself were elated that a trilogy was made. I even welcomed the Morales trilogy also leading up until i heard Morales needed a nutritionist. Those are the types of fights I loved seeing PAc fight. He can't fight every last top 10 fighter, but Valero and Guzman are deserving. Fans asking who have they beat because they don't recognize a name is ridiculous. You can tell who they are a fan of. Shadey, you seem to be a good poster, and have very good arguments. You aren't just a dismiss kind of guy. I like that. I just want to see Pac face one of the 2.

Well regardless of what he does in november...the 1st order of business for him in 2009 would be to face the winner of Campbell/Guzman. So you may get your wish

These "who have they beat" arguments come into play because when they step up in competition as Guzman is doing...I dont think they'd be able to handle it. Dude hasnt had a KO in 4 years when his nickname is lil tyson and he's coming up yet another weight demanding the best and the brightest?? you get what i mean?

[Boofdatruth]

Well regardless of what he does in november...the 1st order of business for him in 2009 would be to face the winner of Campbell/Guzman. So you may get your wish

These "who have they beat" arguments come into play because when they step up in competition as Guzman is doing...I dont think they'd be able to handle it. Dude hasnt had a KO in 4 years when his nickname is lil tyson and he's coming up yet another weight demanding the best and the brightest?? you get what i mean?

They call Guzman lil tyson because of hos he looks. Everyone knows he is a pure boxer. The good thing about a true champs, is that they expose those types of boxers that you think may not be able to handle the pressure is MIGHT be able to. we don't know. That is the rik of fighting a ko artist. Cotto did the same to Torres, but Torres showed he was the goods and won a title later. I don't want to see a so-called superfight with a man who was knocked out 2 fights ago. Hatton has to build his rep back.

[deevel79]

Boof, wasnt u defending Floyd choice to rematch Oscar & Hatton over fighting Cotto, because supposebly Cotto didnt bring anything to the table?