Who performed better against Hopkins?

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  • deuce_drop
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    #31
    i have to say oscar fought better, he looked better in handling his ass whoopin. tito got stomped on for 12rds. and hopkins made him look bad...**** he even made him retire, really, his last fight was a chump just to get a win and then retire. hopkins really sent him there....now he's back. i think it will be short lived, but who knows....

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    • mic573
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      #32
      You don't have to extreme power to KO someone with a body shot but Hopkins hits alot harder than he gets credit for. Delahoya didn't quit in the ring. You all act like you have never seen someone get hit from a good body shot before.

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      • jabsRstiff
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        #33
        Originally posted by deuce_drop
        i have to say oscar fought better, he looked better in handling his ass whoopin. tito got stomped on for 12rds. and hopkins made him look bad...**** he even made him retire, really, his last fight was a chump just to get a win and then retire. hopkins really sent him there....now he's back. i think it will be short lived, but who knows....

        Oscar took a body shot, & went down....after rounds of tedium between the two.

        Explain how this is better than a man who kept coming, with KO power in his hands, until he was DRIVEN into the ground ?

        Oscar didn't DO a damn thing against Hopkins. Nothing.
        If you guys were impressed with that early stuff......damn.

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        • mic573
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          #34
          I'll say this about the style match ups, both Trinidad and Delahoya made Hopkins approach the fight differently from his normal fight. Bernard was very cautious about his fight with Trinidad. After all Trinidad had just destroyed the number 2 man in the division. He forced Hopkins to box and move to avoid being hit from the lefthook. He fought an almost picture perfect fight with very little mistakes. Especially against the ropes where Trinidad would of been his most dangerous. Hopkins backed up on the ropes on his own accord and did some of his best work. In one round he made Tito come to him and countered him with a quick right hand. Seconds later he did the same thing. It was just brilliant to watch. It was also hard to watch since Tito is one of my top two favorite fighters of all-time. I have to admit though it was a masterful performance.

          With Delahoya he had to fight more intellegent. If he had came out and rushed Oscar I think he would been countered punched alot and look very bad doing it. He knows his legs couldn't keep up with Oscar's. So what did he do? He laid back and waited for Oscar to get enough confidence to start move forward and he started doing the counterpunching. He lost some rounds early but it was a smart move on his part. He wouldn't have to move as much and would be able to clinch and bully Oscar a bit when he got close enough. In round 7 and 8 Oscar started to move more but still he wasn't moving enough to where Bernard couldn't get to him. In the 9th round he threw a very good bodyshot to stop Oscar.

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          • jabsRstiff
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            #35
            "In the 9th round he threw a very good bodyshot to stop Oscar."


            See....I think he threw an ORDINARY body punch to stop Oscar.

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            • mic573
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              #36
              It was a good shot that he set up. Oscar was to busy worrying about slipping the right hand and left his body exposed and Hopkins took advantage with a lefthook to the liver. I'll take Hopkins word when said he heard Oscar lose his breath after he landed the punch. I know people are saying Oscar took a dive or he could of got up or whatever but I think that takes away from Hopkins victory.

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              • jabsRstiff
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                #37
                I am a Hopkins fan. But, I think it was a very questionable-looking punch.
                Oscar was also overly-defensive, without being questioned on it, about the issue.

                I truly believe he felt like he fought long enough, well enough...& got himself out of there unscathed.

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                • Palma
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by oldgringo
                  So you're telling me Tito never had a shot to KO Hopkins? If Tito were to catch 'Nard in that fight with a big left hook we would seen a different fight. If DLH caught him Hop would have shaken it off easily. It's reasonable to say that Tito always has a shot at knocking out whoever he fights including Hopkins. DLH could never knock out Hop unless someone put cement in his gloves.
                  Tito has one of the hardest left hooks in history. Ring Magazine published a magazine a year ago that listed some of the hardest hitters within the sport of boxing (Surprising DLH was not listed). I think B. Hopkins has the hardest head in history. All bone up there about 6 inches thick.

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                  • mic573
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                    #39
                    I think he was being more defensive because he had to. Hopkins was starting to really turn it on. I don't think the fight was fixed or Delahoya just gave up. You have to remember that Delahoya is a fighter and fighter with alot of pride in my eyes. When everybody sees him they say he's a pretty boy or he's got movie star looks but I have never heard Oscar say he was going to be a movie star and I think the media should really stop saying that. They praise him one line and the next line they say all that stuff. He's a fighter and always has been. Yeah he made a mistake against Trinidad but he admits it. I don't think he would lay down that easy.

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                    • jabsRstiff
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                      #40
                      I'm talking about him (Oscar) being defensive in the interview.

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