Did Pacquiao surpass JCC Sr. in greatness?

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  • flipside
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    #11
    Originally posted by ferocity
    I also don't know why some of you pinoys think Ledwaba was a great champion he wasn't. He was not good and not proven. He was a fighter the Hbo tried to make into a great but he struggled with boxers. Even Fana became Champion after Barrera ko'd him, Ledwaba was never heard from again.
    manny retired that ****er.

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    • El Jesus
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      #12
      Originally posted by Puas
      True, just cuz a fighter wins belts in more weight divisions does not mean he's accomplished more than another fighter.

      Pac has still got about 50 to 60 fights to achieve Chavez status. About a fight a month for the next few years and he may come close.
      No, what he would have to do is actually fight some prime contenders who actually match up with him at this point. Guys like Guzman, Casamayor, Cambpell, Juan Diaz etc. Chavez, one thing i can say is that he fought alot of prime opponents and beat them. A guy like Soto would also boost his resume, but right now, a guy like david diaz simply doesnt count.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Puas
        True, just cuz a fighter wins belts in more weight divisions does not mean he's accomplished more than another fighter.

        Pac has still got about 50 to 60 fights to achieve Chavez status. About a fight a month for the next few years and he may come close.
        If Pacman fights quality over quantity he is there. He needs to clear out 135 and if he gains the belt at 140 he would surpass the great JCC.

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        • El Jesus
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          #14
          Originally posted by flipside
          if you examine chavez's fights how many of his wins came against a recognizable fighter?
          Alot. Chavez' resume is loaded. I am not a chavez fan and never will be, but unless you have been a boxing fan within the last 8 years, or when pacman made it big, of course you arent going to know who alot of those guys are, but chavez fought alot of good and a few great fighters on top of that.

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          • ferocity
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            #15
            Originally posted by flipside
            manny retired that ****er.
            Yeah, sure he did.

            Ledwaba lol, i laugh ever time you guys bring up his name.

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              #16
              Originally posted by flipside
              if you examine chavez's fights how many of his wins came against a recognizable fighter?

              how many wins did he get against recognizable fighter. the most recognizable is taylor. he lost to other greats like dlh, whitaker(gift draw), kostya tszyu

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                #17
                Originally posted by flipbjefrox
                how many wins did he get against recognizable fighter. the most recognizable is taylor. he lost to other greats like dlh, whitaker(gift draw), kostya tszyu
                young little pup

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by flipside
                  if you examine chavez's fights how many of his wins came against a recognizable fighter?
                  about 10 or 12, you cant recognize them? not surprised my pinoy friend...


                  this thread is PhilBoxing approved. (******)

                  how about you do some homework and name all the fighters u can only recognize... this should be interesting.

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                  • flipside
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ferocity
                    Yeah, sure he did.

                    Ledwaba lol, i laugh ever time you guys bring up his name.
                    and i laugh everytime i remember that tarver hopkins was a draw and vargas KD from mosley was a flash KD.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ferocity
                      young little pup
                      rather than old fat never was

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