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  • abadger
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    #81
    Originally posted by The_Bringer
    Kelly's chin is fine. Just because you get dropped doesn't mean you have a bad chin. I can think of dozens of good fighters who got dropped against lesser opposition who had good chins.

    The whole idea that getting dropped equals a bad or "suspect" chin is total nonsense.
    I agree with your theory when it comes to simply being dropped, case in point Joe Calzaghe, one of the best chins in boxing. However the manner that Pavlik got dropped by Taylor, I think sinking to his knees after the cumulative effects of a barrage and looking not that far from being KOd makes me think his chin is far from top of the line. You simply do not see this happening to guys like Hopkins, Margarito, Calzaghe.

    I'm not saying that Kelly has paper, but Abraham is a very hard puncher indeed, much harder than Taylor so I think an Abraham win by KO is really not that unlikely.

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    • MELLY-MEL...
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      #82
      Originally posted by abadger
      I agree with your theory when it comes to simply being dropped, case in point Joe Calzaghe, one of the best chins in boxing. However the manner that Pavlik got dropped by Taylor, I think sinking to his knees after the cumulative effects of a barrage and looking not that far from being KOd makes me think his chin is far from top of the line. You simply do not see this happening to guys like Hopkins, Margarito, Calzaghe.

      I'm not saying that Kelly has paper, but Abraham is a very hard puncher indeed, much harder than Taylor so I think an Abraham win by KO is really not that unlikely.
      ok, so how many guys would have gotten up from that and finished the fight the way pavlik did? he took a ton of hard shots. most would have never gotten up. he got caught but good, and it's his own fault. but, he overcame it, whereas i don't see many others doing it.

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      • abadger
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        #83
        Originally posted by Melly-Mel
        ok, so how many guys would have gotten up from that and finished the fight the way pavlik did? he took a ton of hard shots. most would have never gotten up. he got caught but good, and it's his own fault. but, he overcame it, whereas i don't see many others doing it.
        True. Credit to kelly for that.

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          #84
          Originally posted by abadger
          I agree with your theory when it comes to simply being dropped, case in point Joe Calzaghe, one of the best chins in boxing. However the manner that Pavlik got dropped by Taylor, I think sinking to his knees after the cumulative effects of a barrage and looking not that far from being KOd makes me think his chin is far from top of the line. You simply do not see this happening to guys like Hopkins, Margarito, Calzaghe.

          I'm not saying that Kelly has paper, but Abraham is a very hard puncher indeed, much harder than Taylor so I think an Abraham win by KO is really not that unlikely.

          If Jermain Taylor punched you behind the ear like that and took your equilibrium , I'm pretty sure you'd react the same way too.

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          • abadger
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            #85
            Originally posted by The_Bringer
            If Jermain Taylor punched you behind the ear like that and took your equilibrium , I'm pretty sure you'd react the same way too.
            But would B-Hop? Calzaghe?

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            • sterling
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              #86
              **** all u lot talkin **** about abraham i refuse to believe he can ko anyone with boxing ability if he knocks out pavlik il make a thread about it indeed and say i was wrong in till then suck my nutsack he isnt a p4p puncher.

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              • xEDDIEx
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                #87
                Originally posted by Sir_Joe
                Abraham would **** Pavlik and I said that a long time ago.
                your crazy. pavlik kills abraham

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                • KingArthur
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by The_Bringer
                  So Abraham? A relatively unknown Middleweight titleist, would be the first man to knock out Hopkins? Hopkins, the same guy who has never in his career been caught flush, or hurt in a fight in his entire career? Abraham would knock him the **** out?

                  Are you a professional ****** or just a gifted amateur?
                  hey f a g face, BHop is done, washed up, and never fought anyone with Arthurs or Pavliks power, and dont bring up Trinidad because Trinidad underestimated BHop (and to BHops credit he fought a VERY tactical fight). Now if you put a BHop in his PRIME and the Arthur of today, **** I'll be the first one to say BHop gets the decision. But NOW, at the age of 42, listen and understand what I'm trying to say and then open your ass

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                  • Landshark
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                    #89
                    **** OFF LIMEY ****! Instead of posting on boxing scene all day shoud you not be at your dentist talking about how you gonna fix your ****ed up teeth. Nothing but a dip**** you are you ****ing ****

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