Ive had enough of this talk about abraham

[ßringer]

Like I said I'll bet you half my points that AA doesn't get stopped.

Pavlik hasn;t faced anybody who's got AA's toughness, defense, savvy and power.

Well when the fight is official (meaning contracts signed) you know where to find me. I'll bet you for whatever your point total is at the time of the fight.

[pesticid]

Well when the fight is official (meaning contracts signed) you know where to find me. I'll bet you for whatever your point total is at the time of the fight.

that AA doesn't get stopped, right?

[abadger]

I'm not going to talk about it anymore, mark my words. Quote it, do whatever you want with the post, it's going to happen. Abraham doesn't protect his body enough to hold off Kelly's attack. Kelly will walk through him within 8 rounds. End of discussion.

You don't think you're overrating Kelly just a bit do you? The Abraham fight is not an easy one to call, and I agree Kelly's workrate could give him problems, but I really don't see how you can think Kelly is going to walk through this guy.

[pesticid]

I already won money on Miranda not stopping Abraham and even Pavlik himself was a firm believer in Miranda stopping the King.

I'll be right again if this fight happens.

[Landshark]

Abraham has been ridiculed for TWO ****ing years on these forums. Arthur comes and ktfo miranda. NOW we are going to have to listen how Pavlick is going to ko aa. The same Pavlick who was on ****** blvd by TAYLOR who lost to spinks(at least in my opnion) and somenone who could not hurt kassim ouma! KASSIM OUMA!

AA will be Pavlicks thoughest test, and in my opnion WILL get caught. The weird part about you pavlick nuthuggers here is: YOU NEVER ASK YOURSELVES HOW PAVLICK WILL REACT ONCE HE GET CAUGHT BY AA COUNTER HOOK OR STRAIGHT RIGHT HE DOES NOT SEE COMING!

[ßringer]

You don't think you're overrating Kelly just a bit do you? The Abraham fight is not an easy one to call, and I agree Kelly's workrate could give him problems, but I really don't see how you can think Kelly is going to walk through this guy.

I'm not over rating Kelly, or under rating Arthur. I've been watching both of them pretty avidly over the years. Kelly's flawed, Arthur's flawed. I just think that the way Kelly mixes his punches (working upstairs and downstairs equally, often in combination) is going to give Abraham hell.

Abraham is a tough son of a gun, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go the distance. But at the end of the day, Abraham isn't on the level that Kelly is. I doubt Abraham would've been able to beat Taylor twice.

[ßringer]

that AA doesn't get stopped, right?

Yup. I believe 36 minutes is long enough for Kelly to get the job done. And if not, I'll pay up.

[Landshark]

I'm not over rating Kelly, or under rating Arthur. I've been watching both of them pretty avidly over the years. Kelly's flawed, Arthur's flawed. I just think that the way Kelly mixes his punches (working upstairs and downstairs equally, often in combination) is going to give Abraham hell.

Abraham is a tough son of a gun, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go the distance. But at the end of the day, Abraham isn't on the level that Kelly is. I doubt Abraham would've been able to beat Taylor twice.

What "level" are you talking about? Throwing more punches? I can agree with that, but who is usually more accurate? Usually AA is very accurate with harder punches, I just don't get why AA is so underrated and Pavlick overrated. I guess we are going to have to see!

[abadger]

I'm not over rating Kelly, or under rating Arthur. I've been watching both of them pretty avidly over the years. Kelly's flawed, Arthur's flawed. I just think that the way Kelly mixes his punches (working upstairs and downstairs equally, often in combination) is going to give Abraham hell.

Abraham is a tough son of a gun, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go the distance. But at the end of the day, Abraham isn't on the level that Kelly is. I doubt Abraham would've been able to beat Taylor twice.

We'll see. I don't rate Taylor very highly at all, I think he is quite average, despite his wins over B-Hop, so I'm pretty sure Abraham would beat him. As for Abraham - Pavlik I can see it both ways. Kelly might very well just rain punches onto Abrahams high guard all night, sap his energy and get a late KO or decision, or Abraham might explode a bomb in Kelly's face. Kelly's chin isn't all that.

If I had to pick I think I'd go with Abraham by KO, but thats not to say I couldn't be wrong and that it wouldn't be a competitive fight.

[ßringer]

We'll see. I don't rate Taylor very highly at all, I think he is quite average, despite his wins over B-Hop, so I'm pretty sure Abraham would beat him. As for Abraham - Pavlik I can see it both ways. Kelly might very well just rain punches onto Abrahams high guard all night, sap his energy and get a late KO or decision, or Abraham might explode a bomb in Kelly's face. Kelly's chin isn't all that.

If I had to pick I think I'd go with Abraham by KO, but thats not to say I couldn't be wrong and that it wouldn't be a competitive fight.

Kelly's chin is fine. Just because you get dropped doesn't mean you have a bad chin. I can think of dozens of good fighters who got dropped against lesser opposition who had good chins.

The whole idea that getting dropped equals a bad or "suspect" chin is total nonsense.