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  • #31
    Originally posted by Mozza View Post
    I'm getting sick of repeating myself but it seems that I have no choice until this sinks in. Calzaghe cannot fight below light heavyweight which is 175, Kelly Pavlik has not fought above 166 which is a little below super middleweight, where are they supposed to fight?
    I'm sure Pavlik would be willing to move up to 175.

    Lets not act like that's the problem. If it is, let Joe bring it up in the media so Kelly Pavlik can respond with a "I don't have a problem fighting Joe at 176".

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    • #32
      How much would you pay to watch slappy get thrown off a tall building and splatter on concrete? I would pay alot.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Mozza View Post
        I'm getting sick of repeating myself but it seems that I have no choice until this sinks in. Calzaghe cannot fight below light heavyweight which is 175, Kelly Pavlik has not fought above 166 which is a little below super middleweight, where are they supposed to fight?
        Please. He's had ONE fight at Light Heavy. In fact, didn't he weigh 172/173 for the Hopkins weigh-in?

        He fought at the weight for years, I'm sure he could do it again. Although I'm sure a catchweight could be found.

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        • #34
          or put him in a trash compactor with full audio/video. Or get beaten to death with bats a la Joe Pesci in Casino.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by vladimir303 View Post
            I'm sure Pavlik would be willing to move up to 175.

            Lets not act like that's the problem. If it is, let Joe bring it up in the media so Kelly Pavlik can respond with a "I don't have a problem fighting Joe at 176".
            Obviously it is a problem. Calzaghe's weight has been an issue for months. If Pavlik was that desperate for the fight he should be the one to raise the issue.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Keyser Soze View Post
              Please. He's had ONE fight at Light Heavy. In fact, didn't he weigh 172/173 for the Hopkins weigh-in?

              He fought at the weight for years, I'm sure he could do it again. Although I'm sure a catchweight could be found.
              Please nothing. It has been well documented here in the UK that Calzaghe has been uncofortable making weight for some time. If Pavlik and co. were being so accomodating they would have made public their willingness to fight at light-heavy.

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              • #37
                Calzaghe majorly struggled making SMW weight. I've read him describing in detail how he eats virtually nothing for days leading upto the fight, has severe hunger pains, has to run in cling film, and just feels ill. When he makes weigh he feels like thats half the battle done.

                I think since being at LHW he's gradually realised he can't do SMW weight anymore, it's just caning his body. Pavlik says he'll do anything at times, yet he doesn't really seem to have much input as to his career, Arum steers him. Could say brave, but could also, ******. I mean he's just beaten a bum, and is now facing someone 2 divisions lower.

                I don't think going up in to divisions himself to meet Joe would be wise even if he would do it, that's 15 lb's in a small amount of time. I mean Williams walk around weight is high for his division, that's not the case so much of Pavlik I don't think so not so easy. In that sense I'm glad he's sticking to MW, he doesn't need to be ****ing about with his weight too much.
                Last edited by Kris Silver; 07-15-2008, 05:19 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mozza View Post
                  Obviously it is a problem. Calzaghe's weight has been an issue for months. If Pavlik was that desperate for the fight he should be the one to raise the issue.
                  I wasn't questioning Calzaghe's weight problems, I was saying it isn't a issue for the fight being made since Pavlik is willing to move up to 175 and fight for the Ring light-heavy championship.

                  I don't think Pavlik would make a "I only will fight him at 168" stipulation. He wants the fight period.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by vladimir303 View Post
                    I wasn't questioning Calzaghe's weight problems, I was saying it isn't a issue for the fight being made since Pavlik is willing to move up to 175 and fight for the Ring light-heavy championship.

                    I don't think Pavlik would make a "I only will fight him at 168" stipulation. He wants the fight period.
                    Why hasn't he come out and said it then? Reading between the lines, negotiations have hit stumbling blocks at key points so Calzaghe has taken another fight where the terms suit him. It is every fighter's perogative to do so and to call it ducking is poor form.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by vladimir303 View Post
                      I wasn't questioning Calzaghe's weight problems, I was saying it isn't a issue for the fight being made since Pavlik is willing to move up to 175 and fight for the Ring light-heavy championship.

                      I don't think Pavlik would make a "I only will fight him at 168" stipulation. He wants the fight period.
                      When have you heard Pavlik personally say he really wants that fight with any meaning? Sorry few and far between. It was all Arum, whom was after the money. Pavlik was just going along with it.

                      There's a press conference where Arum was talking about progress with the Calzaghe ppl on a fight this year. Pavlik responded like he just didn't know about it at all, just said, sweet.

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