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Enzo Calzaghe: "A Kelly Pavlik Fight Will Never Happen"
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This guy has been the biggest farce in the boxing community. Joe ***azhe is nothing more than smoke and mirrors! They were able 2 spin the UK fans with this type of BS but its safe 2 say that the US can see through it! Hurry up and fight RJJ and go away! There are tons of young lions in the sport that deserve way more attention and fan fare your stealing ***azhe! Roy needs to shut this guy up once and for all via brutal KO! Death to Fazaghe's career!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Could it be just because it's true, and all the cynical predictable ranting to the contrary with little to back them up, are not? I mean how much proof is there any of the cynical Joes ducking him, he and Enzo are scared, Kelly would win.
Everything points to the contrary. Calzaghes willing to fight a dangerous opponent like Pavlik, and did in Kessler, and won. Hows Pavlik gona be any different, people give better odds to Kessler in a rematch than Pavlik.
Say what you like about Enzo or Joe, hell I'm willing to criticise a trainer and boxer I'm a fan of as much as everyone should be. Joe can be a bit of a lame persaonlity, shoulda chased bigger fights earlier, shoulda ditched Warren years ago, should tried to get a Johnson fight back on track, can get caught by right hands. Enzo can be annoying, say ****** things, exaggerate his fighters, rant.
But Joe is not ducking Pavlik lol, is not scared of him, he and the majority of ppl believe Calzaghe would easily win, by polls, even when most whom voted were American. Just get over it ppl, this made up **** is not true as much as you want it to be. Pavlik would get beaten by Joe, Kelly's not being ducked Joes fighting whom he said was his 1st preference for his last fight, whom though past his prime, has the attributes and skill set more likely to challenge him in ways he never has before, speed being one.
Made up, wishful thinking, cynical storytime needs to end already, all I'm saying.
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i would have more respect for calzaghe should he fight and lose to pavlik than if he fights and beats RJJ.
that being said obviously Joe isn't fighting for my respect and honestly neither fight is going to firmly establish a legacy. the pavlik fight would do more but it would be up to kelly to move on and have a highly successful career so people looked back ten years from now when pavlik retires and say the only fight he lost in his prime was to
"a 38 year old Joe Calzaghe, what a great fighter he was!"
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Truth be told, Calzaghe would LOSE to Taylor and anyone who saw Joe fight Hopkins knows it.
Calzaghe needs to stay on the "Seniors Tour" because that's all he can handle, he is a shot fighter who is too sloppy with NO power punches at this point.
Pavlik could go up in weight and beat the snot out of Calzaghe, so could Taylor, so could Abraham.
As to Enzoe saying a Champion like Pavlik hasn't "earned" a fight with his protected boy -- COMPLETE BULL**** -- just look at the list of LESS accomplished opponants who DID get a shot at Calzaghes' Titles over the years!!
Again, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck -- IT'S A DUCK. Although I have to admit, in this case it might be a mixed with a CHICKEN...Last edited by Soundtraveler; 06-25-2008, 01:51 PM.
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Let's not forget that Enzo also predicted that Lockett would have Kelly Pavlik and Jack Loew "eating their words on Sunday morning" after the fight.
Obviously he isn't the best evaluator of boxing talent and his opinions should hold no weight whatsoever.Last edited by dstew; 06-25-2008, 02:16 PM.
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Smokescreen, this is Enzo blowing smokescreen while they negotiate the better deal with Jones or Pavlik.
Everybody knows Pavlik vs Calzague is one of the best fights that could be made in boxing these days, specially Calzague's camp.
I think they are negotiating both fights and will take whoever presents the best offer.
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Originally posted by 11player View PostSmokescreen, this is Enzo blowing smokescreen while they negotiate the better deal with Jones or Pavlik.
Everybody knows Pavlik vs Calzague is one of the best fights that could be made in boxing these days, specially Calzague's camp.
I think they are negotiating both fights and will take whoever presents the best offer.
"Pavlik could fight for 20 more years and wouldn't be worthy of being in the same ring as my son... but what the hell, please fork over $50 to see them fight anyways."
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Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View PostEnzo Calzaghe, father/trainer of Joe Calzaghe, said his son will never fight WBC/WBO middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik. He says Pavlik has not earned his right for a bout with Calzaghe and he feels Roy Jones Jr. will be a tougher fight for his son. [details]
Jones is a 4 loss, 39 year old fighter way past his prime.
Pavlik is the undisputed, undefeated middleweight champion.
Hypocrisy.
I thought Joe cared about legacy and his fans always say he "fought the best availiable"
There goes that excuse.
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