Kelly Pavlik vs. Paul Williams Turned Down by Top Rank

[LOLORSKATES]

OK?? your post doesn't really make much sense, first of all Williams is an oddity and to a huge degree a disadvantage against any Welterweight because of his size, he is practically cheating his way in that weight division.

As stated here before he started fighting at 160 which is more likely his true weight class so why do the fans need to give props to a guy who is "willing" to challenge the MW champion at his real weight? he is not going all and beyond to fight him, this is just a Goossen tactic to make it seem that Pavlik is trying to duck him, nobody is going to fall for that ****, just a bull**** excuse to try to raise his "stock".

If he wants Pavlik then move up in weight and see how good he can do at 160, I doubt he will last long in that weight anyway. And another thing how is he putting himself on the line? he wants a big payday, that's all.

Was Jorge Arce cheating by making 108 pounds?

[Shalafi]

i didnt know it was cheating if your too tall...

"practically cheating"

[LOLORSKATES]

"practically cheating"

At 5'8, was Erik Morales "practically cheating" at 122 pounds?

[THE REED]

"practically cheating"

Its not cheating at all... thats why its by weight and not by size

if your 147 and short like cotto... your built compact.. u have more leverage on your punches and most likely more power

if your tall and lanky at 147... u most likely lack power but make up for it in reach and height...

its all relative

[LOLORSKATES]

Its not cheating at all... thats why its by weight and not by size

if your 147 and short like cotto... your built compact.. u have more leverage on your punches and most likely more power

if your tall and lanky at 147... u most likely lack power but make up for it in reach and height...

its all relative

What Shalafi is saying is that Antonio Margarito could only be beaten by cheating, so you should scratch off and disregard his loss to Paul Williams because it doesn't count.

[Live Dog]

Its not cheating at all... thats why its by weight and not by size

if your 147 and short like cotto... your built compact.. u have more leverage on your punches and most likely more power

if your tall and lanky at 147... u most likely lack power but make up for it in reach and height...

its all relative

I don't buy the whole height has anything to do with power arguement.......

[Tha_Greatest]

I guess thats why he wants Kelly Pavlik whose 6'2" 1/2

New on the block are we?

Paul Williams wants a much of kelly Pavlik as much as Prince Hamed wants a rematch with Barrera

what block are you you from, who is you and the other person when you asked new to the block are we

[THE REED]

I don't buy the whole height has anything to do with power arguement.......

so r u agreeing or disagreeing?

[rizkybizness]

I don't buy the whole height has anything to do with power arguement.......

Well if you're super ****ing tall, it would be harder for you to fight at a lower weight div (for ex, PW fighting at WW) I'm sure losing the extra weight is extra harder for someone with such a big frame thus taking away some power due to drainage.

[Shalafi]

Its not cheating at all... thats why its by weight and not by size

if your 147 and short like cotto... your built compact.. u have more leverage on your punches and most likely more power

if your tall and lanky at 147... u most likely lack power but make up for it in reach and height...

its all relative

You are taking my words waaaaay out of context, he always makes the 147 lb limit and like you said that is the way the classify the weight classes, as long as he meets that criteria he is legally OK to fight at Welterweight, but he is way taller than your average WW therefore giving him an advantage not commonly seen at that weight. Williams is an oddity at 147 simple as that, any way you want to try to spin it.