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  • Chups
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    #11
    Originally posted by boofdatruth
    Barrera was not in his prime.
    Yes he was......the odds were 4-1. It was also a candidate for upset of the year. JMM was also in his prime when he drew him and still within his prime when he beat him by a very close decision. In the second Morales fight.........Pac was also the underdog, since Morales has beaten him in a close decision in thier 1st fight. Now that it's over and done...it's easy to say they were half-dead, but I still remember those fights and they were very much anticipated.

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    • Boofdatruth
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      #12
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
      boof loves miguel cotto.
      lol, no i don't. I respect cotto, but i have my favorites.

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        #13
        Originally posted by boofdatruth
        lol, no i don't. I respect cotto, but i have my favorites.
        don't lie.

        you know you wanna bear his children.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Domain
          who is your favorite fighter Boof?

          and Barrera was in his prime when pacman demolished him.
          Barrera was number two pound for pound, after Roy Jones, on a lot of lists before he fought Pacquiao. Revisionism has Barrera as a shot fighter now when Pacquiao fought him, although he briefly returned to his peak by beating Morales in the rubber match.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Chups
            Yes he was......the odds were 4-1. It was also a candidate for upset of the year. JMM was also in his prime when he drew him and still within his prime when he beat him by a very close decision. In the second Morales fight.........Pac was also the underdog, since Morales has beaten him in a close decision in thier 1st fight. Now that it's over and done...it's easy to say they were half-dead, but I still remember those fights and they were very much anticipated.
            Barrera was ring old that night. Marquez was 29 in the first fight and 33 in the rematch i believe. I'm not discounting those wins, they just weren't against those guys at their best. The marquez win is a legit win against a guy I thought could beat him. To this day I thought he beat pac. But more than that, Pac showed me he was the truth in both fights.

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              #16
              Originally posted by SinatraFan
              Barrera was number two pound for pound, after Roy Jones, on a lot of lists before he fought Pacquiao. Revisionism has Barrera as a shot fighter now when Pacquiao fought him, although he briefly returned to his peak by beating Morales in the rubber match.
              Barrera was never number 2 pfp in my book.

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                #17
                Originally posted by boofdatruth
                Barrera was never number 2 pfp in my book.
                It depends on what you like I guess.

                After the 2000 close loss to Erik Morales, Barrera ran off a very impressive win streak against Jesus Salud, Erik Morales, Naseem Hamed, Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley, that kind of crowd.

                The only guy I could see at the point being number two over Barrera was Bernard Hopkins. Floyd Mayweather Jr was also around there, though it was always recognized that his time would come anyways.

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                  Dude I'll be the first to admit I want to see Pacquiao lose. He wins on speed and power. There is no technique to Pacquiao and whenever anyone decides to sit and trade with Pacquiao that's where they **** up because Pacquiao's wild and quick flurries will always get there first. If he fought a patient boxer who stayed on the outside Pacquiao would get straight embarrassed. If you go back to Pacquiao's fights with Barrera and Marquez (two guys who can box very well) when they boxed him they shut him down but when that toe to toe "warrior" mentality took over and they elected to trade, Pacquiao always got the best of the exchanges. Truth is, I just get frustrated watching a guy who can't really box continue to win especially against guys who can box but play into his hands. I appreciate both brawlers and boxers but boxing to me is an art and I'd rather see a fighter who is tactical, calculated, and has finese(sp?) win rather than a crude brawler. With all that said I do think Pacquiao is a very likeable guy who at least appears very humble which I respect greatly. This is my opinion, feel free to agree or disagree, but Pacquiao's time is up this Saturday....

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by boofdatruth
                    Barrera was ring old that night. Marquez was 29 in the first fight and 33 in the rematch i believe. I'm not discounting those wins, they just weren't against those guys at their best. The marquez win is a legit win against a guy I thought could beat him. To this day I thought he beat pac. But more than that, Pac showed me he was the truth in both fights.
                    Cotto is dope to me.

                    but to play devils advocate Shane mosley was way past his and older then marquez when cotto fougth him.

                    and Zab judah? what has he done he aint even a legend the crumbles in big fights.

                    and again who are your favorites? why you avoiding answering.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by boofdatruth
                      Barrera was ring old that night. Marquez was 29 in the first fight and 33 in the rematch i believe. I'm not discounting those wins, they just weren't against those guys at their best. The marquez win is a legit win against a guy I thought could beat him. To this day I thought he beat pac. But more than that, Pac showed me he was the truth in both fights.

                      Still prime for prime, Pacquiao beats Barrera in any weight.........Morales would be another story. In his prime Morales would have probably win a trilogy against Pac. And a prime Marquez will be a thorn against those 3 because of his style. But still because of his counterpunching style he would never generate fans even if he wins against those 3. None is like the charisma of MAB, EM and Pac.

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