How do you rate Arthur Abraham p4p?

[MELLY-MEL...]

Someone besides a guy that never won a title in his life would help. Top 20 is insane at this point.

very true jimmy!

[FUC_U_PAYME]

Top 21-25 maybe

[Derranged]

Someone besides a guy that never won a title in his life would help. Top 20 is insane at this point.

Agreed.....................

[Run]

Anywhere from 11-15 on my list.

And he's a really ****ing good fighter. I mean now I'm convinced.........nobody has ever seen him like that before. That was impressive.



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[Xyei]

eah, for miranda is not a good measuring stick. he is very powerful, but against the elite he has failed miserably. i am a huge kelly fan, but till he beat taylor i was not sure just how good he was. if ab's beats kelly he will get my props.

I know there is a lot of hype about Abraham with this impressive win. Hell, I'm ipressed too, but he did already beat Miranda and with a broken jaw at that. I agree, I don't think this win propels him too far in the P4P rankings.

[DiegoFuego]

Anywhere from 11-15 on my list.

And he's a really ****ing good fighter. I mean now I'm convinced.........nobody has ever seen him like that before. That was impressive.

I agree. There's no reason he should be far outside the top 10 when he's undefeated and has looked good every time out except one when he had a broken jaw and kept fighting. He might be the toughest guy in boxing and he's definitely a great fighter. I love his attitude and how he came to the states to prove himself. I'm a big fan of him now.

[Boofdatruth]

Where is Abraham on your p4p list?

He will be ranked top 10 if he beats Pav.

[The Hammer]

I agree. There's no reason he should be far outside the top 10 when he's undefeated and has looked good every time out except one when he had a broken jaw and kept fighting. He might be the toughest guy in boxing and he's definitely a great fighter. I love his attitude and how he came to the states to prove himself. I'm a big fan of him now.

Best post by DiegoFuego I've ever seen!

And the first time I've ever agreed with him.

[Run]

I don't know about him beating Pavlik.

But I'd certainly say he'd give Pavlik the toughest test EVER. I mean get real. The way Taylor had him out in the second round of their first fight with the athletic angles and punches in combination. Abraham is a much, much, much better athlete than Pavlik is............that's obvious.

It's feasible to say he could counter Pavlik and hurt him. But I don't think he'd win, because he still has the tendency to pull straight back and Pavlik would catch him with a straight shot. I think that fight would be a matter of Abraham literally surviving the distance and possibly winning a decision..........because he stands a 50% or better chance of facing serious adversity.



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[Mr. Ryan]

If he beats Pavlik then we can talk about pound for pound. As is he is the second best middleweight in the world, with the first being Kelly Pavlik.

Then again thats why we have unification.