Amir Khan - Glass chin or not

[Silencers]

How would Kessler's style expose his chin? Kessler does box behind his jab, and his chin is rarely exposed because he is patient and technically sound. He is by no means a pressure fighter, but he is an attacking one, just one who doesn't take undue risks.

I do see what you're saying though, a counterpunching style would be good for Khan, but I don't think its truly in his nature. Seriously though, if you really want to see what I mean then check out the Andrade fight (if you haven't) and imagine Amir Khan doing exactly the same. To my mind it would be a frightening prospect.

Kessler does expose his chin at times because he stands straight up in his European style and his jab can be timed because he doesn't vary the jab much, an opponent can slip or counter the jab with a right hand over the top.

I think Khan's style should resemble someone like Guzman without as much foot movement, that's why I've been saying he should maybe go with Roger Mayweather instead of Buddy McGirt because Mayweather could introduce the shoulder roll defense, Khan is fast enough to use it effectively and also make him an even better offensive fighter.

I know that Guzman is trained my Mayweather Sr., but Roger knows the shoulder roll as well and is a more offensive minded trainer whereas Mayweather Sr. is more defensive.

[-CANE-]

How would Kessler's style expose his chin? Kessler does box behind his jab, and his chin is rarely exposed because he is patient and technically sound. He is by no means a pressure fighter, but he is an attacking one, just one who doesn't take undue risks.

I do see what you're saying though, a counterpunching style would be good for Khan, but I don't think its truly in his nature. Seriously though, if you really want to see what I mean then check out the Andrade fight (if you haven't) and imagine Amir Khan doing exactly the same. To my mind it would be a frightening prospect.

He does box behind the jab, and his defense is pretty sound. I see what your saying, but I just don't see this suiting Khan. Maybe I'm wrong, but it will be interesting to see who he chooses to train him and how they will try and shape him.

Kessler don't take undue risks but he likes to close fighters down, even if it is cautiously and I see Khan more vulnerable like this than further away. Boxing at a distance and on the back foot, he has the speed and reflexes to slip and move away from punches, harder to do that coming forward, even behind a jab and high guard (unless you have reflexes of Roy Jones).

But Khan is Khan and whatever style he chooses, when he has an opponent hurt and he moves in for the kill, then he is at his most vulnerable.

[abadger]

Kessler does expose his chin at times because he stands straight up in his European style and his jab can be timed because he doesn't vary the jab much, an opponent can slip or counter the jab with a right hand over the top.

I think Khan's style should resemble someone like Guzman without as much foot movement, that's why I've been saying he should maybe go with Roger Mayweather instead of Buddy McGirt because Mayweather could introduce the shoulder roll defense, Khan is fast enough to use it effectively and also make him an even better offensive fighter.

I know that Guzman is trained my Mayweather Sr., but Roger knows the shoulder roll as well and is a more offensive minded trainer whereas Mayweather Sr. is more defensive.

I don't think Khan is good enough to execute these type of Mayweather/ Guzman moves. I think he needs a solid platform on which to build. Again, I think you like others are underestimating just how effective Kessler is, and bear in mind Khan is both faster and more talented so he could do it even better. I think sometimes simple is best. If Khan overcomplicates things and tries to aim too high it isn't going to work for him.

[Tha_Greatest]

definitely glass but the really cheap kind of glass, like the glass you buy at the 99 cents store

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Khan is going to buy a double glazing company when he retires.

[Silencers]

I don't think Khan is good enough to execute these type of Mayweather/ Guzman moves. I think he needs a solid platform on which to build. Again, I think you like others are underestimating just how effective Kessler is, and bear in mind Khan is both faster and more talented so he could do it even better. I think sometimes simple is best. If Khan overcomplicates things and tries to aim too high it isn't going to work for him.

That's why he needs time to develop, he's still very young and he can work on incorporating the Mayweather/Guzman moves over the next few years while steadily stepping up his level of competition.

I think he has the physical tools to be able to execute the Mayweather/Guzman defense.

I don't think I underestimate Kessler, he's very good at what he does but take away his jab and I don't think he really has a plan B, I just don't think the European style would suit Khan.

[hookoutofhell]

first of all kahns chin is glass - no othe way of looing at it its completely glass. so far he has been knocked down y fighters who aren'teven lightweights but instead they are blown up featherweights - i mean someone who can get knocked out by willie limond isnt going to stand a chance against a katsidis.

in regards to his style i really think khan is tailor made for the maywether style, mayweather sr is a fantastic coach who knows the boxing game in and out. he knows what is required at the highest level and defensively speaking they are not many better than him.

imo he could take khan and mould him into a fantastic fighter at the lightweight division and maybe even beyond that, khans offense is great he knows how to stay on the outside and utilise his reach jab and straight right, offensively it is only his inside fighting that might need a bit of work. its his defense that needs alot of attention and work right now.

in regars to his style i think amir would need to copy parts of kesslers style, against andrade kessler realized that he was against an extremly durable fighter and that even his one punch KO power was not working so he took his time and waiting for the shots to tell and then launche a final onslaught in the final rounds.

the thing that seperates kessler and amir is that kessler has one punch KO power - khan doesn't, but he would do well to fight the way that kessler did in that fight on his toes, just keep his jab pumping and throw the right when he sees the opening.

imo khan is still pretty powerful and imo is a cumlautive power puncher - i.e. he doesn;'t have one punch KO power but he has decent enough power to stop someone alot like fighters such as hatton and pavlik, what khan needs to do is go to the body more often like hatton and pavlik do.

so far hes not really needed to do that because hes been against shoddy level of fighters but if hes to improve he needs to go to the body alot more which may be somethig he develops when hes works on fighting on the inside.
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[Dynamite Kid]

6 people think its to early to tell ,yet he was ready for taking out against Willie Limond a guy who is not even in double figures for knockouts and he has over 30+ fights and he has been flawed with what looked like a nothing punch from Michael Gomez

anyone with half a brain should be able to summerise that his chin is very bad ,Jermain Taylor has a better chin than Khan and his chin is not solid either

[Dynamite Kid]

How would Kessler's style expose his chin? Kessler does box behind his jab, and his chin is rarely exposed because he is patient and technically sound. He is by no means a pressure fighter, but he is an attacking one, just one who doesn't take undue risks.

I do see what you're saying though, a counterpunching style would be good for Khan, but I don't think its truly in his nature. Seriously though, if you really want to see what I mean then check out the Andrade fight (if you haven't) and imagine Amir Khan doing exactly the same. To my mind it would be a frightening prospect.

im not sure wether Kessler style exposes his chin but it does make him easy to hit cause he goes back in straight lines when he is attacked and he has a tall upright European style where he rarely bends from the waist or the knees which means he will be easier to hit with punches over the top just by the sheer fact he is a bigger target area to hit

Kessler does expose his chin at times because he stands straight up in his European style and his jab can be timed because he doesn't vary the jab much, an opponent can slip or counter the jab with a right hand over the top.

I think Khan's style should resemble someone like Guzman without as much foot movement, that's why I've been saying he should maybe go with Roger Mayweather instead of Buddy McGirt because Mayweather could introduce the shoulder roll defense, Khan is fast enough to use it effectively and also make him an even better offensive fighter.

I know that Guzman is trained my Mayweather Sr., but Roger knows the shoulder roll as well and is a more offensive minded trainer whereas Mayweather Sr. is more defensive.

the trouble with Kessler is he does not throw many feints when u keep walking good fighters onto the jab they will usually try to change tack by staying just out of punching range and getting ready to time the jab with the right hand over the top so it is then down to u to start chaning things by throwing a feints before u jab to try and sell them a few dummies so they cant time u i cant think of anybody who did this better than Larry Holmes TBH

[Silencers]

the trouble with Kessler is he does not throw many feints when u keep walking good fighters onto the jab they will usually try to change tack by staying just out of punching range and getting ready to time the jab with the right hand over the top so it is then down to u to start chaning things by throwing a feints before u jab to try and sell them a few dummies so they cant time u i cant think of anybody who did this better than Larry Holmes TBH

Agreed, Kessler doesn't feint much so when an opponent sees him moving his left shoulder it will more than likely be a jab because he rarely throws anything else first. Kessler would do even better if he feinted more and threw more right hand and left hook leads to make himself a bit less predictable.

Holmes was indeed great at feinting before he threw a jab and mixed in a few lead hooks and lead right hands to keep his opponents guessing. The only problem with Holmes when he jabbed was that he didn't move his head, that's why Shavers and Snipes managed to catch him very cleanly with right hands, Tyson did too.