Some Questions About Roy Jones Jr.

[My Name Is...]

We all saw what the weight loss issue did to Chris Byrd. It took his legs, his speed, his agility, and many other things. Well Roy Jones did the same thing as Byrd when he fought Tarver. Jones had never looked that bad against any other fighter than in the first 2 Tarver fights and Glen Johnson. How could he lose weight when he was PURE MUSCLE. There was no fat on him, just watch the video, and here is a pic.

The questions are,

1 - How many years did the weight loss take off of his career?

2 - Instead of going to light heavy, could he have went to Cruiser and been the undisputed champ, and beat Bell or Mormeck or Vassily Jirov, who I believe was the champ at the time?

3 - Could he have beaten another heavyweight at the time?

4 - Did the weight loss make his chin weaker and sap his legs which led to the trio of losses?

5 - Does Jones finally feel the way he used to feel now that he has gotten his weight back in check, or is the damage of the weight loss already finished him?
And if not, what kind of shot do you give him against Calzaghe?

I know what I think, but what do you guys think?

I had to edit, I didnt mean Pavlik, I meant Calz. Sorry

[KingTito]

I'd say you can definitely make a case that the weight loss affected him. That's not an easy thing to do. I think he'd be a tough fight for anyone now. He's a legend, he's a smart fighter, and he definitely still has talent. If anything is affecting him now though, I'd say it's his age.

[Mr. Ryan]

I agree that the massive amounts of weight loss had a serious adverse effect on him, particularly since it was so late in his career. But until he gets in with a serious challenge, how can you know? He hasn't been in with a top-ranked fighter in a long time, since Tarver. Declaring him to be back to his best is a stretch since he hasn't been tested since.

Let him do something along the lines of when Barrera came back and whipped Morales in the third fight, then we can talk a little more about that.

[Feint]

On a side note, I don't think it was the weight loss that hurt Byrd. I think it was the simple fact that he got older and slowed down. It happens to the best of us.

[My Name Is...]

I'd say you can definitely make a case that the weight loss affected him. That's not an easy thing to do. I think he'd be a tough fight for anyone now. He's a legend, he's a smart fighter, and he definitely still has talent. If anything is affecting him now though, I'd say it's his age.

Yeah, his age, but the weight loss really affected his legs the most. Took his movement and reflexes away. There is no reason those losses should have happened.

[Dan...]

1 - The weight certainly took off a lot of years. He went from untouchable to unmissable fairly quickly. He says he is over it now and his body has settled again but I remain unconvinced. Unfortunately I think his trip to HW and back effectively put an end to the first phase of his career and that style of boxing that he pretty much perfected.

2 - Not sure if he could have gone to cruiser. Obviously he would have needed to shed a lot less so who knows.

3 - He could have beaten other heavies for sure. Whether or not he could have beat Lewis is a different question though.

4 - Who really knows how much if affected his chin? He barely got touched prior to the first Tarver fight so I guess we don't really know. I suspect he always had a weak chin but it was just never tested. If you see the fight against Lou Del Valle he loses his legs for a moment from a left that probably would not have taken out a LHW with a very decent chin. It is hard to tell though. As far as his legs are concerned, definately. He didn't have the same bounce and it, along with his loss of speed and reflexes, was the most noticable thing.

5 - He hasn't looked good IMO since coming back. However he hasn't been tested so we don't really know. We will have to wait and see I guess. Against Pavlik, I wouldn't like his chances but you can never count Roy out. He is one of the best there ever was.

[Johnny Rebel]

Most of these question will be answered when Jones fights Calzaghe at LHW this year. Joe is 36 and Roy is 39 so there is no significant age advantage and both are similar in size, speed and weight. It should be an excellent fight that I see Calzaghe winning 116-112.

[Two Clips]

We all saw what the weight loss issue did to Chris Byrd. It took his legs, his speed, his agility, and many other things. Well Roy Jones did the same thing as Byrd when he fought Tarver. Jones had never looked that bad against any other fighter than in the first 2 Tarver fights and Glen Johnson. How could he lose weight when he was PURE MUSCLE. There was no fat on him, just watch the video, and here is a pic.

The questions are,

1 - How many years did the weight loss take off of his career? That one is hard to say so I'll leave that one up to someone else.
2 - Instead of going to light heavy, could he have went to Cruiser and been the undisputed champ, and beat Bell or Mormeck or Vassily Jirov, who I believe was the champ at the time? Most def to much speed for those 33 - Could he have beaten another heavyweight at the time? Maybe Chris Bird but believe me Roy knew what he was doing when he called out Ruiz.
4 - Did the weight loss make his chin weaker and sap his legs which led to the trio of losses? Tarver just has Roy's number even in the amatuers and Johnson caught him when he was gun shy IMO

5 - Does Jones finally feel the way he used to feel now that he has gotten his weight back in check, or is the damage of the weight loss already finished him? I think he feels pretty good now that he's back to his natural weight and
he taking it off in a healthy way know.
And if not, what kind of shot do you give him against Pavlik? I give him a hell of a chance against Pavlik and Calzage but just not at 160, 168 he'll be fine.

I know what I think, but what do you guys think?

What do you think?

[My Name Is...]

I agree that the massive amounts of weight loss had a serious adverse effect on him, particularly since it was so late in his career. But until he gets in with a serious challenge, how can you know? He hasn't been in with a top-ranked fighter in a long time, since Tarver. Declaring him to be back to his best is a stretch since he hasn't been tested since.

Let him do something along the lines of when Barrera came back and whipped Morales in the third fight, then we can talk a little more about that.

We do know because it took away everything that had gotten Roy to that point in his career. His speed, leg, reflexes. Had he not lost so much weightit is in my opinion that he could have went to cruiser and dominated any one at the time. Jirov, Mormeck, or Bell. But since he lost as much as he did, he would still be a physical specimen to be dealt with. Now he is just a shell of his former self.

[My Name Is...]

I put Pavlik, but I meant Calz. Sorry.