ESPN New P4P Rankings

[Dan...]

B-Hop should be #1, he beat Calzaghe

I still can't believe some people think Bernard won. They are often people who know a lot about boxing too. Just because Calzaghe looked terrible doesn't mean B-Hop deserved to win. I was rooting for Bernard but there is no way he won that fight. He won that fight like Hatton was ahead on the cards when Floyd stopped him.

[Flawless]

Pacman should be number one

[KING •]

I still can't believe some people think Bernard won. They are often people who know a lot about boxing too. Just because Calzaghe looked terrible doesn't mean B-Hop deserved to win. I was rooting for Bernard but there is no way he won that fight. He won that fight like Hatton was ahead on the cards when Floyd stopped him.

Don't feed the trolls.

[kmcc505]

1. Pacman
2. Calzaghe
3. JM Marquez

After that, it's a crap shoot really.

[El Dominicano]

I still can't believe some people think Bernard won. They are often people who know a lot about boxing too. Just because Calzaghe looked terrible doesn't mean B-Hop deserved to win. I was rooting for Bernard but there is no way he won that fight. He won that fight like Hatton was ahead on the cards when Floyd stopped him.

Man and how the f did Calzaghe win ? Calzaghe never hurt B-Hop and B-Hop made him miss the whole time. The landing **** was BS. Even the little that he landed! It was all slaps. Calzaghe landed VERY FEW meaningful punches. B-Hop made Calzaghe look like he didn't belong in the P4P rankings. Truth is. Calzaghe took some serious hooks and straights in that fight and could only respond back with Slaps that had no effect.

[Dan...]

Don't feed the trolls.

Yeah it's not just the trolls unfortunately. I saw one guy post the other day that he thought Hopkins had one also. I can't recall the posters name but I remember thinking that he really knew his stuff. I just don't get it, I thought it was a pretty clear fight.

[Dan...]

Man and how the f did Calzaghe win ? Calzaghe never hurt B-Hop and B-Hop made him miss the whole time. The landing **** was BS. Even the little that he landed! It was all slaps. Calzaghe landed VERY FEW meaningful punches. B-Hop made Calzaghe look like he didn't belong in the P4P rankings. Truth is. Calzaghe took some serious hooks and straights in that fight and could only respond back with Slaps that had no effect.

Fair enough. I guess I just saw the fight differently. I scored it as I was watching it and if anything I was biased towards Bernard but I didn't give him too many rounds. I agree that Joe looked bad but Hopkins looked like he was barely there at all for 75% of the fight. How can you win a fight based on that level of output?

[Easy-E]

Manny has been number 2 for a long time, he clearly deserves the one spot.
The explanations for the ratings are just awful, who the hell wrote that??

[El Dominicano]

Fair enough. I guess I just saw the fight differently. I scored it as I was watching it and if anything I was biased towards Bernard but I didn't give him too many rounds. I agree that Joe looked bad but Hopkins looked like he was barely there at all for 75% of the fight. How can you win a fight based on that level of output?

To answer your question. "How can you win a fight with that level of output" How can u win a fight litterly slapping? How can you win a fight losing for most of the round and then trying to take it back with flurries of slap? How are you gonna show boat against a 43 year old who is making yu look bad. How are you the 1st fighter to land that many "So called punches" to Bernard Hopkins and not even hurt him a bit??? Thats what I am saying. People don't see it the way I do. Thats why every expert and even Calzaghe peoples said Bernard won.

[Bogler]

its obvious whoever made that is still sourgraping over the jmm loss

a win is a win, a loss is a loss. pac should be at #1 and jmm should be lower.