Jones/Calzaghe- the power issue

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  • Space_Bar
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    #11
    I odn't think Jones, at this age, can keep up with Joes workrate. I see Joe winning by a landslide on the cards.

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    • THE REED
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      #12
      Originally posted by Space_Bar
      I odn't think Jones, at this age, can keep up with Joes workrate. I see Joe winning by a landslide on the cards.
      bernard hopkins lost a SD at 43

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      • x-PeROxiDE-x
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        #13
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss
        bernard hopkins lost a SD at 43
        Bernard Hopkins has changed his style up to remain effective at 43.

        Although Roy has changed his style too, he has fought who?

        Hanshaw was a joke fight, and Tito is by no means a 170 lb'er.

        I think Roy will get frustrated in this fight, resort to his old style, thinking Joe can't hurt him. That's when Joe scores the stoppage, when Roy underestimates Joe's accuracy and power.

        Nobody has EVER accused Joe of slapping after they have fought him, remember. His power is underestimated before the fight, but never after they have been on the receiving end.

        Roy is not quick or sharp enough to dodge Joe's fast hands anymore, he has to work out how else he can neutralise Joe's output. Unfortunately, although a good counter puncher, he is not as good as Hopkins, and Hopkins couldn't do it, and I doubt Roy could either.

        If Roy can stick to a concrete gameplan he is more than capable of pulling it off, but I can't help but see Joe stopping him late.

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        • THE REED
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          #14
          Originally posted by x-PeROxiDE-x
          Bernard Hopkins has changed his style up to remain effective at 43.

          Although Roy has changed his style too, he has fought who?

          Hanshaw was a joke fight, and Tito is by no means a 170 lb'er.

          I think Roy will get frustrated in this fight, resort to his old style, thinking Joe can't hurt him. That's when Joe scores the stoppage, when Roy underestimates Joe's accuracy and power.

          Nobody has EVER accused Joe of slapping after they have fought him, remember. His power is underestimated before the fight, but never after they have been on the receiving end.

          Roy is not quick or sharp enough to dodge Joe's fast hands anymore, he has to work out how else he can neutralise Joe's output. Unfortunately, although a good counter puncher, he is not as good as Hopkins, and Hopkins couldn't do it, and I doubt Roy could either.

          If Roy can stick to a concrete gameplan he is more than capable of pulling it off, but I can't help but see Joe stopping him late.

          roy isnt a better counter puncher than bernard? uh what...

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          • The Surgeon
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            #15
            Originally posted by Silencers
            Exactly, that was probably the worst possible strategy for Cintron.
            I agree but when u have a puncher like Cintron u have to think he can hurt the guy! Not so!
            Cotto aint just a better boxer than Cintron but also a better fighter! A very very real chance Cotto gets KO'd against Marg but im pretty sure he gets the win too.

            Anyway Joe has some power, respectfull puncher rather than concussive.

            I hope Joe is a BIG odds on favourite coz im betting on Roy, he still has speed to burn and hits sharp and hard, his legs are what let him down these days but he can lay on the ropes and fight from there if he chooses. His chin aint great but i dont think its as glass as some beleive. Roy by mid rounds sudden KO

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            • Bad_Barracuda
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              #16
              Originally posted by Silencers
              Johnson isn't that great of a puncher either but he managed to knock Jones out.

              I agree though that Jones still has very good speed and pretty good power.
              Johnson punches like superman compared to Calzhage.

              There's a reason old Joe punked out of figthing him

              Joe was supposed to fight the WINNER of Brewer/Echols but chose the LOSER instead...lol

              NOBODY else in boxing can get away with a drag-queen move like that.

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              • Soundtraveler
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                #17
                Ever hit a 100 lb. heavy bag? I personaly watched Glen Johnson knock that heavy bad completely off the chains and onto the floor with a 5 punch combo. You can't tell me he doesn't punch hard, he is a BEAST.

                I think Jones always had more punching power than Calzaghe when he was in his prime.

                It's rather obvious by now that since Calzaghe hasn't been able to KO anyone in years, he has no pop left.

                If Jones shows Calzaghe some good power early, Joe will hesitate before trying to come in, he does get gunshy and stays back if he is getting countered good.

                One thing we all know, if it's a boxing match rather than a brawl, Jones has the advantage, he is smarter than Joe - no doubt about it, he will find a way to land lead rights all night. Calzaghe misses alot, and when he does connect, it isn't hard.

                Jones will land the cleaner, more effective punches - now whether the judges award him for that is another story. Obviously, some judges (and HBO's Punchstats) count "love taps" as a punch, - but not me - which has led me to completely ignore "punchstats" from HBO and ESPN.

                I will be rooting for Jones in this meaningless matchup, but I won't be watching it...
                Last edited by Soundtraveler; 06-16-2008, 04:57 PM.

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