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  • Dynamite Kid
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    #11
    Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
    I believe that Benn and Eubank would have presented Jones with the most problems. Benn becuase of his massive power and Eubank becuase of his thinking and boxing ability. Although i would have made Jones a favorite over both of them, they would have been his toughest tests. I think that problem was that Eubank didn't want to come to the U.S and Jones didn't want to come to the U.K. Jones had everything to lose. I am shocked that Jones/Benn didn't occu though. Benn has came over to the U.S plenty of times in his fights with Barkely, Dewitt ect and even called Jones out after his win over MCcellann.
    not to mention Steve Collins who called him out after the Benn 2 Fight and after his 1st win over Eubank

    im a Roy Jones fan but i cannot deny im gutted he never faced these fighters wether he would have dominated them or not he should have faced them u need to see them in the ring together playing fantasy fight counts for nothing

    i cant criticise Floyd fans for it a do it myself now can i LOL

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      #12
      Originally posted by Terrible...
      not to mention Steve Collins who called him out after the Benn 2 Fight and after his 1st win over Eubank

      im a Roy Jones fan but i cannot deny im gutted he never faced these fighters wether he would have dominated them or not he should have faced them u need to see them in the ring together playing fantasy fight counts for nothing

      i cant criticise Floyd fans for it a do it myself now can i LOL
      I don't really know much about Steve Collins other than he has wins over Eubank and Benn. It was most likely one of those big risk little reward situation for Jones. I'm also not sure if Collins was willing to come to the U.S to fight.

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        #13
        Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
        I don't really know much about Steve Collins other than he has wins over Eubank and Benn. It was most likely one of those big risk little reward situation for Jones. I'm also not sure if Collins was willing to come to the U.S to fight.
        I was only a kid at the time, but I have to say it was like Steve Collins came out of nowhere (I'm sure he didn't) and just had Benn and Eubank's numbers.

        Anyway he really came onto the top level scene at the end of their careers (some might say that was because he ended them!). Collins was supposed to fight Calzaghe for his title but he retired and the result was the Eubank vs Calzaghe title eliminator where Joe got the belt.

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          #14
          Originally posted by abadger
          I was only a kid at the time, but I have to say it was like Steve Collins came out of nowhere (I'm sure he didn't) and just had Benn and Eubank's numbers.

          Anyway he really came onto the top level scene at the end of their careers (some might say that was because he ended them!). Collins was supposed to fight Calzaghe for his title but he retired and the result was the Eubank vs Calzaghe title eliminator where Joe got the belt.
          From different British fans, i have heard that Benn and Eubank were both past it at the time. They stated that Eubank was mentally damaged from the Michael Wattson fight and Benn was physically shot from all of the wars that he was involved in. I know that Collins had to be a good fighter to still be able to pull it out becuase Benn and Eubank were obviously still dangerous and good fighters. Eubank especially becuase he moved up to cruiserweight and gave the british champion Carl Thompson a run for his money in both of their fights.
          Last edited by slicksouthpaw16; 06-16-2008, 06:02 AM.

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            That's probably about right, although I think it was only losing to Collins that revealed that Eubank in particular was maybe past his best. Eubank was definitely the favourite for their first fight. It was crazy actually. Steve Collins was in the papers saying he was going to be hypnotised not to feel pain and to never give up and the papers were all saying "is is this fair, is this safe?" and I think Eubank complained about it too.

            Nuts.

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              #16
              ive saw Collins fight with Mike McCallum and i thought he pushed McCallum quite close thats the only fight ive seen of his pre Eubank ,Benn

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                #17
                Does anyone know what Steve Collins style was like? Was he a ****er or was he more of a skilled boxer?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                  Does anyone know what Steve Collins style was like? Was he a ****er or was he more of a skilled boxer?
                  id say he was an aggresive limited Boxer who could brawl and had a very good chin and was tough as nails but he could also counter punch effectively from what i saw against Eubank in his 1st fight

                  he brawled in 2nd fight with Eubank

                  Brawled with Benn and boxed more against McCallum

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                    #19
                    here he is against

                    Steve Collins v Craig Cummings

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by abadger
                      That's probably about right, although I think it was only losing to Collins that revealed that Eubank in particular was maybe past his best. Eubank was definitely the favourite for their first fight. It was crazy actually. Steve Collins was in the papers saying he was going to be hypnotised not to feel pain and to never give up and the papers were all saying "is is this fair, is this safe?" and I think Eubank complained about it too.

                      Nuts.
                      Yeah, it affected Eubank's psyche going into the fight, he was complaining bitterly about the supposed hypnosis and even threatened to not fight. It was all a ploy from Collins.

                      I think Eubank had already shown that he was past his best before the Collins fights, he had a few close, controversial decisions go his way.

                      Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                      Does anyone know what Steve Collins style was like? Was he a ****er or was he more of a skilled boxer?
                      He had OK boxing skills, nothing special, liked to brawl more than box though.

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