Boof: Abraham-Miranda...Cotto-Margs. One objective view

[Boofdatruth]

First we have Arthur Abraham and Edison Miranda. Their first fight was a great fight marred by controversey. A ref stepped in to talk to the doctor to see if AA could go on. Now whatever controversey anyone of us thinks went down, they fought on. Art bled from the mouth, and showed tremendous pressure. Miranda put on tremendous pressure from start to finish. From my point of view, it was one fighter able to hit the other cleanly. The fouls in this fight whether questionable or not some did not decide the fight. In the latter rounds, AA was moving and trying to finish, and miranda came forward and just could not connect cleanly. This is why I pick AA to ko Miranda this time. AA is at a better weight for this fight. Some think Miranda will be better too. The old adage that boxers beat punchers imo rings true in this rematch.
Cotto and Margs is also a great fight. Boxer/puncher against smart/puncher. cotto is going to come out moving slowly conserving energy. That is unless Margs attacks from the door. Cotto lacks a big right hand, but he can throw it. Margs has heavy hands, but isn't a one punch finisher. Cotto being shorter and having faster hands is going to move, box, and **** the body. Cotto will have to test the chin of Margs every now and then. Margs will march forward and land any punch that he can whether on the arms, where ever. If he is able to get close, and land the vaunted uppercut or any short hard punches, this could cause problems for cotto. If cotto is able to box, stay strong and don't let Margs muscle him, he wins. If Margs is able to tag cotto using his reach, and able to establish his pressure from round 1 on, and doesn't start slow, he can wear down cotto. My pick is Margs. I know that cotto is the sharper puncher, but I just don't think he is the stronger guy. Normally, I would say the boxer beats the puncher. But cotto's lack of a serious right hand is the only reason I pick margs to win.

[Guest]

First we have Arthur Abraham and Edison Miranda. Their first fight was a great fight marred by controversey. A ref stepped in to talk to the doctor to see if AA could go on. Now whatever controversey anyone of us thinks went down, they fought on. Art bled from the mouth, and showed tremendous pressure. Miranda put on tremendous pressure from start to finish. From my point of view, it was one fighter able to hit the other cleanly. The fouls in this fight whether questionable or not some did not decide the fight. In the latter rounds, AA was moving and trying to finish, and miranda came forward and just could not connect cleanly. This is why I pick AA to ko Miranda this time. AA is at a better weight for this fight. Some think Miranda will be better too. The old adage that boxers beat punchers imo rings true in this rematch.
Cotto and Margs is also a great fight. Boxer/puncher against smart/puncher. cotto is going to come out moving slowly conserving energy. That is unless Margs attacks from the door. Cotto lacks a big right hand, but he can throw it. Margs has heavy hands, but isn't a one punch finisher. Cotto being shorter and having faster hands is going to move, box, and **** the body. Cotto will have to test the chin of Margs every now and then. Margs will march forward and land any punch that he can whether on the arms, where ever. If he is able to get close, and land the vaunted uppercut or any short hard punches, this could cause problems for cotto. If cotto is able to box, stay strong and don't let Margs muscle him, he wins. If Margs is able to tag cotto using his reach, and able to establish his pressure from round 1 on, and doesn't start slow, he can wear down cotto. My pick is Margs. I know that cotto is the sharper puncher, but I just don't think he is the stronger guy. Normally, I would say the boxer beats the puncher. But cotto's lack of a serious right hand is the only reason I pick margs to win.

Abraham tko's Panty Rah
Margarito tko's Cotto

[Boofdatruth]

Abraham tko's Panty Rah
Margarito tko's Cotto

lol, I hear ya wreck

[dc6112]

What qualifies your view as objective in the Abraham fight? You always pick the Euro.

[Boofdatruth]

What qualifies your view as objective in the Abraham fight? You always pick the Euro.

I'm a black American from NJ who happens to think 40Cal and Abraham are good. That is all. I'm a fan of all boxers. You may see me at times exlax on Miranda being overrated, but that's about it. Fighters from all over the world can fight. When it comes to being objective, I am. When it comes to dealing with fighters and their fanatical fans, I'm not. They call me the reality setter.

[F-22 Raptor]

I'm a black American from NJ who happens to think 40Cal and Abraham are good. That is all. I'm a fan of all boxers. You may see me at times exlax on Miranda being overrated, but that's about it. Fighters from all over the world can fight. When it comes to being objective, I am. When it comes to dealing with fighters and their fanatical fans, I'm not. They call me the reality setter.

Not a bad analysis but honestly not because im Puertorican I think Cotto's gonna take it. Because Marg is a very strong puncher, but he has 1 dimension, he just goes forward, Cotto was thought to be 1 dimensional for a VERY long time until he fought Mosley and showed that he can move the ring, fight and move to the side, and use smart jabs and not let himself get hit if he wants. I think Cotto is going to do the same wit Marg, move to the sides and use the jab all night, and of course everytime he sees that body open he's gonna try and break it down slowly. But Margarito does have a great chance of winning, but he also gives Cotto a great chance of being hit to the body because he always fights wide open, let's just see what happens, but Cotto has the sharper, shorter, killer blows to the body that make anyone go down.

[krispy kreme]

Normally, I would say the boxer beats the puncher. But cotto's lack of a serious right hand is the only reason I pick margs to win.

You keep saying Cotto has no right hand, but if you watch the Judah & Mosley fight he hurt both of them with right hands.

[machotime]

Where do you get the idea that Cotto lacks power in his right hand?

It is difficult to discount that Cotto has a higher KO percentage than Margs and has fought much more credible opposition.

In the first fight between Miranda and Abraham, Miranda's technique was very wishy-washy, I do believe that he is now punching straighter and using his jab much more effectively. Therefore, this fight will be different.

[mikec]

First we have Arthur Abraham and Edison Miranda. Their first fight was a great fight marred by controversey. A ref stepped in to talk to the doctor to see if AA could go on. Now whatever controversey anyone of us thinks went down, they fought on. Art bled from the mouth, and showed tremendous pressure. Miranda put on tremendous pressure from start to finish. From my point of view, it was one fighter able to hit the other cleanly. The fouls in this fight whether questionable or not some did not decide the fight. In the latter rounds, AA was moving and trying to finish, and miranda came forward and just could not connect cleanly. This is why I pick AA to ko Miranda this time. AA is at a better weight for this fight. Some think Miranda will be better too. The old adage that boxers beat punchers imo rings true in this rematch.
Cotto and Margs is also a great fight. Boxer/puncher against smart/puncher. cotto is going to come out moving slowly conserving energy. That is unless Margs attacks from the door. Cotto lacks a big right hand, but he can throw it. Margs has heavy hands, but isn't a one punch finisher. Cotto being shorter and having faster hands is going to move, box, and **** the body. Cotto will have to test the chin of Margs every now and then. Margs will march forward and land any punch that he can whether on the arms, where ever. If he is able to get close, and land the vaunted uppercut or any short hard punches, this could cause problems for cotto. If cotto is able to box, stay strong and don't let Margs muscle him, he wins. If Margs is able to tag cotto using his reach, and able to establish his pressure from round 1 on, and doesn't start slow, he can wear down cotto. My pick is Margs. I know that cotto is the sharper puncher, but I just don't think he is the stronger guy. Normally, I would say the boxer beats the puncher. But cotto's lack of a serious right hand is the only reason I pick margs to win.

Marg is a sloppy brawler. half the time his feet arent even in the correct position leading to puches with lil to nothing on them. He has issues handling smarter fighters (see clottey). Cotto earlier in his career was a boxer who had dimensions he just abandonned them during his tear through JWW. He is the smarter, faster, efficient fighter who will win a UD.

I personally think the fight will have its exciting moments but is going to be a clear UD win for Cotto. he will not brawl with marg like an idiot he doesnt give a **** what the fans want he is in to systematically destruct his opposition and in this case it will be in the form of a stick and move boxer.


my opinion

[Boofdatruth]

Not a bad analysis but honestly not because im Puertorican I think Cotto's gonna take it. Because Marg is a very strong puncher, but he has 1 dimension, he just goes forward, Cotto was thought to be 1 dimensional for a VERY long time until he fought Mosley and showed that he can move the ring, fight and move to the side, and use smart jabs and not let himself get hit if he wants. I think Cotto is going to do the same wit Marg, move to the sides and use the jab all night, and of course everytime he sees that body open he's gonna try and break it down slowly. But Margarito does have a great chance of winning, but he also gives Cotto a great chance of being hit to the body because he always fights wide open, let's just see what happens, but Cotto has the sharper, shorter, killer blows to the body that make anyone go down.

A very good post.