Name Just 1 Other P4P Boxer Who Is Fighting Cotto..

[2501]

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[Horus]

Mayweather is and was Held to a standard that other fighters can not will not ever be held too... It's just apart of the Circumstances surrounding the dude..

Thats why when it's all said and done Floyd will be one of the greatest fighters to ever do it, if not the greatest....
If you look at it.....
For People to consider Floyd being in a Fair Fight....

1. The Guy has to be bigger than Floyd
2. Cant be the Same Size Height and weight
3. Floyd cant fight nobody Smaller than him under no circumstances
4. Floyd cannot fight no bigger fighters in higher weight division who are not ranked at least #1 or #2 in the division...FOR IT TO BE CONSIDER A REAL CHALLENGE
i.e (Pacquiao vs. David Diaz)

WHAT KIND OF STANDARDS are Those to put on a Fighter....

for example If Floyd fought Felix Sturm right now for the middle weight title I bet people will give Floyd ****.....Saying that this is not a fair fight....
not taking into account that, that would be Floyd's 6Th weight class and Him fighting The WBA Champion.. and also Floyd would also probably be outweigh.... by 20 pounds come fight night night..!!


The standards beset on Floyd are so unreasonable that If you even trying to mention to place those kinda standards on someone else....You would sound crazy....

For example....
What if I say Cotto would have to go up 5 weight classes and get 6 titles
Mostly the WBC Belts while staying undefeated....

before I even consider Cotto to be in the same sentence as Mayweather.....

Would that be unreasonable...
Because Cotto started @ 140
so he would go up to LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
and capture titles at all weights proceeding LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT while staying undefeated... Before I would I consider him a great fighter like Floyd....

How would Cotto Fans Accept those standards.......

But guess what That what Floyd has Done.......To be consider the greatest of his generation and P4P Best Today...

He came from 130
and has gotten titles from
130
135
140
147
154
While Staying Undefeated....
NO OTHER FIGHTER IN HISTORY HAS EVER DONE THIS....!!! NOT ONE

Not
Sugar Ray L, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, Bernard Hopkins, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell, Marvin Hagler, Aaron Pryor, Willy Pep, Roy Jones,
Sugar Ray Robinson....NOBODY....



This is why Floyd Fans say Thats when it's all said and done Floyd will be one of the greatest fighters to ever do it, if not the greatest....

[shadeyfizzle]

@Horus

Your points are very valid and yet you defeat your own argument when all people are asking of him is to fight the winner of Cotto/ Margarito and he cant even do that.

[MANGLER]

[QUOTE=2501;3622961]there may actually be a hidden message within the text.

He's a PBF ****rider who's upset Floyd said he quit and can't stand guys who actually deserve it like Marg and Cotto gettin their shine.

[NAPO]

Mayweather is and was Held to a standard that other fighters can not will not ever be held too... It's just apart of the Circumstances surrounding the dude..

Thats why when it's all said and done Floyd will be one of the greatest fighters to ever do it, if not the greatest....
If you look at it.....
For People to consider Floyd being in a Fair Fight....

1. The Guy has to be bigger than Floyd
2. Cant be the Same Size Height and weight
3. Floyd cant fight nobody Smaller than him under no circumstances
4. Floyd cannot fight no bigger fighters in higher weight division who are not ranked at least #1 or #2 in the division...FOR IT TO BE CONSIDER A REAL CHALLENGE
i.e (Pacquiao vs. David Diaz)

WHAT KIND OF STANDARDS are Those to put on a Fighter....

for example If Floyd fought Felix Sturm right now for the middle weight title I bet people will give Floyd ****.....Saying that this is not a fair fight....
not taking into account that, that would be Floyd's 6Th weight class and Him fighting The WBA Champion.. and also Floyd would also probably be outweigh.... by 20 pounds come fight night night..!!


The standards beset on Floyd are so unreasonable that If you even trying to mention to place those kinda standards on someone else....You would sound crazy....

For example....
What if I say Cotto would have to go up 5 weight classes and get 6 titles
Mostly the WBC Belts while staying undefeated....

before I even consider Cotto to be in the same sentence as Mayweather.....

Would that be unreasonable...
Because Cotto started @ 140
so he would go up to LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
and capture titles at all weights proceeding LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT while staying undefeated... Before I would I consider him a great fighter like Floyd....

How would Cotto Fans Accept those standards.......

But guess what That what Floyd has Done.......To be consider the greatest of his generation and P4P Best Today...

He came from 130
and has gotten titles from
130
135
140
147
154
While Staying Undefeated....
NO OTHER FIGHTER IN HISTORY HAS EVER DONE THIS....!!! NOT ONE

Not
Sugar Ray L, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, Bernard Hopkins, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell, Marvin Hagler, Aaron Pryor, Willy Pep, Roy Jones,
Sugar Ray Robinson....NOBODY....



This is why Floyd Fans say Thats when it's all said and done Floyd will be one of the greatest fighters to ever do it, if not the greatest....

fighting the best>winning titles in 5 weight classes.

ohh an oscar already did that so shut it.

[DLT]

It's foolish, p4p is made up of boxers from different weight categories, how can you expect a p4p fighter to have a multiple number of adversaries from p4p list(especially in the short period of time). Maybe over a long period of time, but it only means that he either been dodging the best guys in his division by moving up or fighting smaller who moved up to fight him.

So, don't wet your panties, cleaning out the division is better then moving up in weight to fight old legends, especially if that division is very deep.


PS. and just like everyone else here I did not read these walls of text you put up.

Laconicity is a sister of talent, they say.

Your missing the point, fool. Did you even read the post or just go by the title? Your taking it far too literaly. Im not telling the guys on the P4P list to fight Cotto. Why would I say something dumb like that? You think I would tell JMM to fight Cotto? My point is to fight a guy in your 4th division who is naturally bigger & stronger then you with a huge weight advantage and is a top notch fighter. Im saying that no one else on the P4P list has even come close to that so people are treating Floyd unfairly by asking him to beat these huge guys when he isnt really near there size. Ive always said that Floyd is an ATG but his cutoff limit is 140. From 130-140 he could fight anyone without a problem but once you get to 147 then things change. Its not because those guys are so talented but its because the size difference is so great that he could realistically lose a fight just because he is too small and thats what I think his team fears.

I think they feel that they could definatly beat Cotto/Margarito/Williams, and so on but they wouldnt be a 100% shocked if they lost just because of the size difference. If Floyd loses he wants it to be because someone is better then him, not just because he was too small. P4P he is clearly way better then Margarito but its a fight that would give him some trouble just because Margairto is huge compared to him. No other fighter on the P4P list is dealing with that. Thats my point. Floyd in terms of weight should still be at 135-140 right now. He doesnt belong at WW but he can just go up there because he is so skilled. The same for 154. Then you have the WW's who arent even real WW's. Most of those guys should be at 154. So not only is he too small for WW but he's fighting guys who are really 154 pounders but kill themselves to make weight. They go up to 180-190 in between fights while Floyd fights at his walk around weight. Its unfair

[DLT]

[QUOTE=mangler;3623821]

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He's a PBF ****rider who's upset Floyd said he quit and can't stand guys who actually deserve it like Marg and Cotto gettin their shine.

***** made, all you guys do is ride Cotto & Margarito's ****. Dont speak for me because you dont know ****. Why would I be upset that he retired? I always make up reasons that he should soon retire. You think that I think that he will fight forever. Then you and the other clown keep talking about me dissing the Cotto fight. For what? I want to see that fight too. I think its a great fight, idiots

[shadeyfizzle]

[QUOTE=DLT;3624109]

***** made, all you guys do is ride Cotto & Margarito's ****. Dont speak for me because you dont know ****. Why would I be upset that he retired? I always make up reasons that he should soon retire. You think that I think that he will fight forever. Then you and the other clown keep talking about me dissing the Cotto fight. For what? I want to see that fight too. I think its a great fight, idiots

So would you not be shocked if Pacquiao fought Hatton at 140 and lost because the size difference was too great?? And yet there's almost no doubt that its going to happen anyway if Pacquiao wins his next fight. Thats the point and defenition of being a "great fighter" To succeed against ridiculous adversity. Not win against someone that may have been bigger and stronger than you but hold every other conceivable advantage over.

[DLT]

[QUOTE=shadeyfizzle;3624153]

So would you not be shocked if Pacquiao fought Hatton at 140 and lost because the size difference was too great?? And yet there's almost no doubt that its going to happen anyway if Pacquiao wins his next fight. Thats the point and defenition of being a "great fighter" To succeed against ridiculous adversity. Not win against someone that may have been bigger and stronger than you but hold every other conceivable advantage over.

How can you say that when Floyd has been doing that his whole career? Its not like he's never done it. My point is he's done it far more then anyone but he hasnt done it this time.

If Pac beat Hatton that would be impressive but come on, that is not super special. Ive talked about this a bunch of times before. Pac is the most fake guy in the sport in terms of weight. I say that he is like the new Duran. Both him & Duran are big guys. They just killed themselves to make weight to beat up on little guys but they were always huge. I always said that it would be just like Floyd starting at 122 or 118. Do you think that wouldve been impossible? Hell no but he wasnt going to kill himself to do that. The fact is that Pac moves up and is by far the biggest guy in the division every single time. Have you seen him? He's the biggest guy in the sport. Dude is built like a rock.

Think about this: Floyd fought Zab & Baldy at WW and came into the ring at 146 pounds. He fought Oscar at 154 and came into the ring at 148 pounds. Pac fights EM, MAB, and JMM all the way down at 130 and comes into the ring at 144 pounds. He's only 2 pounds smaller then Floyd fighting against WW's and Oscar at 154. Its a joke. Comparing him to Floyd are apples and oranges. You think Floyd would worry at all if he fought Cotto and came into the ring at 162 pounds? He would be a beast but he cant do it. No way Pac would fight Hatton if he was a normal guy moving up in weight but he's huge and he knows it. Morales is big in his own right and Pac made him look like a little boy in that 3rd fight. He was physically so much bigger then him. Cotto comes into the ring at 162 while Floyd was 146. You think thats ok or thats the same as Pac? On top of that we know that Cotto/Margarito are in there prime and are killing machines right now while Hatton looks like a shell of himself.

[Bea5T]

dude i read up until the 2nd paragraph and then seen how much longer i had to go so stopped. So please sum up what you're trying to say.

lol


this is sad