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if wladimir was black and american he would be an all time great

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    • i could post picture of vitali beating the **** out of williams buti prefer to have a reasonable debate.

      wow a wlad lost big deal all greats have lost

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      • When Wlad's career is all said and done he will definitely go down as one of the all time greats...He will continue to dominate the heavyweight division until he retires.

        I don't know why people hate Wlad so much, he's a beast, hardest puncher in the world and one of the most talented fighters in boxing.

        Wlad and his brother Vitali are definitely capable of beating any of the all time greats.

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        • Wlad didnt help himself with is lame/scared performance against Sultan, He made himself look pathetic with the slapping when he could have being throwing more right hands against the smaller Sultan.

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          • Originally posted by raycorey View Post
            Wlad didnt help himself with is lame/scared performance against Sultan, He made himself look pathetic with the slapping when he could have being throwing more right hands against the smaller Sultan.
            one performance like that does not mean he is a bad fighter. his fights are usually exciting. he still won the fight convincingly

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            • Originally posted by hungryherbert View Post
              one performance like that does not mean he is a bad fighter. his fights are usually exciting. he still won the fight convincingly
              His fights are never exciting!

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              • Originally posted by raycorey View Post
                Wlad didnt help himself with is lame/scared performance against Sultan, He made himself look pathetic with the slapping when he could have being throwing more right hands against the smaller Sultan.
                That was Sultans gameplan, he was staying low the entire fight to try and entice Wlad to hit him with his right hand which wouldn't reach because he was stay so low, then counter and try and unload some shots on Wlads chin to KO him.

                Wlad was being smart abeit very boring, he could've throw some uppercuts to catch Sultan low but he didn't want to take any chances, the good thing was that it proberbly got rid of Sultan and his TERRIBLELY boring style and cleared up the titleholder mess.

                The fight I want to see is Wlad-Haye because i want to see how Wlad deals with someone alot faster/ more athletic than him and possibly as powerful. I think that would be Wlad true test BUT Haye has to win a title to make Wlad's (possible) win a notable one.

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                • if wladimir was black and american he would be an all time great
                  No, he wouldn't.

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                  • Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                    His fights are never exciting!
                    Pretty amazing, huh? A guy with 44 knockouts but not one exciting fight.

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                    • Originally posted by abadger View Post
                      I'm not sure he'd be seen as the greatest since Ali, since in Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox Lewis etc there have been several heavyweights who are arguably better than Wladimir.

                      However, I agree 100% with the spirit of your post. If Wladimir was American he would already be elevated to 'legend' status alongside these kinds of heavyweights and American fans would love him.

                      Please, Americans don't even try to deny it.
                      However, I agree 100% with the spirit of your post. If Wladimir was American he would already be elevated to 'legend' status alongside these kinds of heavyweights and American fans would love him.

                      Please, Americans don't even try to deny it.

                      dan says: you mean being ko'd 3 times in your life would've elevated him to legend????
                      Please.

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