Do you think James Toney can win a heavyweight belt?

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  • Boogie Nights
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    #11
    Originally posted by KnockoutTheFat
    No kidding. The guy almost lost to Zuri Lawrence for crying out loud! A guy with what 40+ fights? And 0 KO's.
    the only time i ever came to know who zuri williams was when he faced brock, and he almost took his head off. but then again before the fight started i look at the record and it says 0 kos, i go 'howly ****, that's a record' lol. and at heavyweight.....just when you thought you've see everything in this crazy world

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    • KnockoutTheFat
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      #12
      Originally posted by boxing_prospect
      the only time i ever came to know who zuri williams was when he faced brock, and he almost took his head off. but then again before the fight started i look at the record and it says 0 kos, i go 'howly ****, that's a record' lol. and at heavyweight.....just when you thought you've see everything in this crazy world
      Yeah, and you'd think that guy had punching power at 6-4 240...

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      • Motofan
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        #13
        Not at this point in his career.

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        • Left Hook Tua
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          #14
          Originally posted by boxing_prospect
          exactly, tua wont be unarmed for this fight, and there'll always be a puncher's chance. i dont know about this chin business, but haye been draining himself to make weight and that might have an impact. who knows how he'll handle a punch with a healthy body. we'll see. but i know that chin or no chin, if tua can time a good left hook, if he could get that second of an opening, and land it, you'll go down.
          i'm hoping haye's chin "weakness" is due to weightdrain.

          i've been sipping some of the brit kool-aid and some of them has been pointing at cotto's chin at 140 compared to 147 as an example.

          i hope they're right. i wasn't a big haye fan before but all the klitschko guys' hate on him when he has barely jumped from cruiser kinda made me root for the guy.

          plus he has charisma and he fights an exciting style.

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            #15
            Originally posted by boxing_prospect
            exactly, tua wont be unarmed for this fight, and there'll always be a puncher's chance. i dont know about this chin business, but haye been draining himself to make weight and that might have an impact. who knows how he'll handle a punch with a healthy body. we'll see. but i know that chin or no chin, if tua can time a good left hook, if he could get that second of an opening, and land it, you'll go down.

            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            i'm hoping haye's chin "weakness" is due to weightdrain.

            i've been sipping some of the brit kool-aid and some of them has been pointing at cotto's chin at 140 compared to 147 as an example.

            i hope they're right. i wasn't a big haye fan before but all the klitschko guys' hate on him when he has barely jumped from cruiser kinda made me root for the guy.

            plus he has charisma and he fights an exciting style.
            haye has holes in his defense, he's easier to hit in the head than he should be and tua will always have his power. i like haye, i'd like to see him bring some excitement back to the hw's but i'm not sold on haye until i see how well he can take a punch from a 240 lb man

            james toney is one of my favorite fighters of all time, but after his last fight i think he's shot, too old, too much punishment on his body, too many cheesburgers

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              #16
              Originally posted by filth
              haye has holes in his defense, he's easier to hit in the head than he should be and tua will always have his power. i like haye, i'd like to see him bring some excitement back to the hw's but i'm not sold on haye until i see how well he can take a punch from a 240 lb man

              james toney is one of my favorite fighters of all time, but after his last fight i think he's shot, too old, too much punishment on his body, too many cheesburgers
              filth how did he do in the batchelder fight? was it a sorry sight? i didnt get to see the fight

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              • aussieboxer2320
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                #17
                toney is a brilliant fighter but i mean, hes had 80 fights, moved up 4 weight classes(winning titles in 3) and hes like 39 now....i think his body has just had it. but then again he still has those awesome skills that have allowed a former middleweight to stand toe to toe with natural heavyweights

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                • phallus
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boxing_prospect
                  filth how did he do in the batchelder fight? was it a sorry sight? i didnt get to see the fight
                  yeah, it was ****ing sad, almost a robbery to give toney the decision, if rahman's shot too i still give james 50/50 odds on winning the fight. all those clubbing right hands peter landed behind james head really ruined him

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by filth
                    yeah, it was ****ing sad, almost a robbery to give toney the decision, if rahman's shot too i still give james 50/50 odds on winning the fight. all those clubbing right hands peter landed behind james head really ruined him
                    a damn shame. toney is one of my favourites too. maybe because im such a big fan i still think he's got a couple of good wins in him still. the rahman fight will decide it for me

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                    • The_Italian
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by boxing_prospect
                      his upcoming fight with rahman should anwer a lot. both are after the same thing. question is

                      despite the layoff, and his weight problems, can a very focused, in shape and active toney win a title belt at this age and stage?

                      if he had a win over rahman, maybe another ranked contender, hell even someone like David Haye!!! then he would be ready to challenge

                      we got klitschko, chagaev, peter as champions. Toney already fought peter and was robbed in the first fight.

                      can toney do it?
                      he can win a title...sure...but i dont think he can win THEE heavyweight championship.

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