how can you consider mayweather a great 130 pound fighter??

[xcaret]

funny how none of u guys answered him

[Fox McCloud]

funny how none of u guys answered him

I think my post answered his pretty well, but maybe not.

[VIVA MEXICO!!]

I think missing both Casamayor and Freitas is at least somewhat excusable in this instance.

Here are the reasons:

Floyd stated after the Chavez fight that he "couldn't make 130 anymore".

He already beat Diego Corrales at 130, which beat Freitas and had a nearly even trilogy of with Casamayor (even though Casamayor won out).

Castillo actually ended up beasting Casamayor, and Freitas actually ended up on the bottom of the heap when it comes to those four great fighters. Floyd Mayweather moved up from 130 to 135 to face Castillo, who I would contend is the best fighter Floyd has ever fought.

Finally, neither Casamayor or Freitas had really established themselves as a true powerhouse when Floyd moved up. Floyd fought his first lightweight fight in April of 2002, and Casamayor and Freitas first squared off in early 2002. I'm not 100% sure, but I would guess that Floyd had already signed to fight Castillo by the time Casamayor and Freitas had squared off. Both Casamayor and Freitas were titleholders, but as far as their record goes, none of their wins on their resume really turned out to be something that is remembered.

But... the caveat of this post is that I wasn't around when all this was happening, so I obviously don't have the a complete understanding of the circumstances that were going on back then.

Mostly, the point of this post was to say that I think that moving up to fight Jose Luis Castillo was probably a much more dangerous fight than staying at 130 and fighting either Joel Casamayor (in possibly the most boring fight of either's career) or Acelino Freitas.

styles make fights so just because someone else beat them dont mean mayweather would have won. use some plain and basic common sense WILL YA?? moving up to 135 does excuse his ducking.

[Fox McCloud]

styles make fights so just because someone else beat them dont mean mayweather would have won. use some plain and basic common sense WILL YA?? moving up to 135 does excuse his ducking.

Well my post was meant to say that you can't fight everyone, and if there is more than one credible threat possible to fight, I don't think you can be accused of ducking one to fight the other.

Also, what say you to the Floyd saying he couldn't make 130 anymore after the Chavez fight?

[The Gambler1981]

Genaro Hernadez-undeafeted at 130, only lost to Oscar at 135, in PBF 18th pro fight.

Angel Manfready-Smashed Gatti earlier in the year and the fight was for fighter of the year in 1998.

Juuko,Gerena and Rios are all padding to his run and not terrible fighters.

Gregario Vargas- was a pretty good win.

Corrales- His next fight at 130 and what he did to him needs no further explanation from me.

Then his last 2 wins are Jesus Chavez and Carlos Hernandez who are both pretty damn good fighters.

He missed Frietas (who wanted no part of PBF) and Casamayor (who really wanted to see these 2 fight, BORING fight for sure). Now the fact that he also went up from 130 to beat a bunch of solid to good fighters only adds to his 130 clout.

[squealpiggy]

he didnt clean out the division. he ducked popo and casamayor who were also titleholders while in there prime. what did mayweather do that was so great at 130 besides beat a distracted corrales who was about to go to prison???

He ****** your mam?