what is better dominating one division or winning belts in many??

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  • bsrizpac
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    #11
    Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!
    i think it is more impressive to be the best in one division and clean it out. most of the guys who move up alot of divisions do to much ducking and dodging.
    I dunno, but I will note that Margarine has never done either. LOL.

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    • VIVA MEXICO!!
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      #12
      Originally posted by bsrizpac
      I dunno, but I will note that Margarine has never done either. LOL.
      why do you have so much hate in your heart for a man who has done nothing but entertained the fans with his crowd pleasing style and knockouts??

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      • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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        #13
        There are usually too many variables in boxing to pick one over the other. Generally I think it says a lot about a fighter that moves up and fights men that are naturally bigger.

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        • Bad_Barracuda
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          #14
          Originally posted by bsrizpac
          I dunno, but I will note that Margarine has never done either. LOL.


          Marge tried his hand at 154 but was deported back to 147 by Daniel Santos.

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          • Left Hook Tua
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            #15
            Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!
            i think it is more impressive to be the best in one division and clean it out. most of the guys who move up alot of divisions do to much ducking and dodging.
            i think neither is more impressive than the other.

            it doesn't matter if you stay at one division and dominate or jump around.

            as long as you fight the biggest names out there. picking up new belts are just as impressive as holding a belt for a long time. it all depends on who you took those belts from and who you defended your belt against.

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            • Shalafi
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              #16
              Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!
              why do you have so much hate in your heart for a man who has done nothing but entertained the fans with his crowd pleasing style and knockouts??
              you see what I mean? this is pure comedy gold, nobody does it better than VIVA, NOBODY putos!!!! lol

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              • deuce_drop
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                #17
                Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!
                i think it is more impressive to be the best in one division and clean it out. most of the guys who move up alot of divisions do to much ducking and dodging.
                i agree fully and also to add to that, usually guys that are moving up in weight are moving up because they have dropped down to beat up smaller guys, and since their bodies can't handle it any more they move up and fight where they were supposed to be fighting.
                now im not talking a division or maybe two, but when guys that are fighting at lets say lightweight and they end up fighting at jr middle or even middleweight, its obvious the only reason that they were champs is that not only was there skill level better but they had a distinct advantage of being the bigger guy............. not every case is as cut and dry as i just mentioned but it is a fact of reality that is alive a kicking it in boxing today and way back to yesterdays...........

                i think there is more discipline and focus and strain to stay at the same weight, especially as one is getting older, its easy to drop weight when you're younger and then move up, but it's harder to stay at the same weight as your metabolism slows down, which is a fact of life for about 95% of the people in this world......... staying in one division and cleaning it out take more to do then moving up.

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                • th4l3pr3ch4un
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                  #18
                  depends on the division. The way cotto is cleaning out welterweight says it all.

                  and i liked your post deuce ^^

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                  • Dan...
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                    #19
                    There really is not correct answer as it is entirely situational. Winning titles in several different weight classes may be the superior achievement if the quality of opposition is high. On the other hand, cleaning out a division may be the better achievement if the division is a very strong one.

                    It all depends on the strength of the division that a fighter may clear out as opposed to the surrounding divisions. For instance, I would say that Joe Calzaghe cleaning out the SMW division would not match the achievement of a fighter who could clean out the WW division.

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                    • NeXt In Line
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                      #20
                      Really depends on how weak the one division is, or how weak the fighters beat in the consecutive divisions are. The Pacquiao-Calzaghe example is a good one, Pac-Man never ducked anyone at any weight, fought the best fighters there were, he's fighting for a title at 135 after starting his career at 108, and will probably move up to 140 to fight one of the best fighters in that division in Hatton.

                      Calzaghe is really facing quality people right now though, especially if he fights Pavlik.

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