what is better dominating one division or winning belts in many??

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  • Boofdatruth
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    #61
    Originally posted by mcentepede
    Common Boxing terms and their real meanings Part I:
    *JOURNEY-MAN = A BOXER WITH MORE LOSSES THAN NUMBER OF TOES
    *BOXER-PUNCHER=A BOXER WHO HAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF KO'S & TECHNICAL SKILLS.
    *BRAWLER= A BOXER WITH FEW TECHNICAL SKILLS
    *SLICKSTER=RUNS AND DANCES ALOT
    *FEATHER-FISTED=CAN'T BREAK AN EGG WITH A HAMMER IN HIS HAND
    *PAST HIS PRIME = OLD
    *MANDATORY CHALLENGER=UNRANKED/UNKNOWN BOXER EXPECTED TO LOSE
    *WBC=WHY BOX CONTENDERS
    *IBF=INTERNATIONAL BOXING FRAUDS
    *WBO= WEAK BOXERS ONLY
    *STRIPPED OF TITLE=DIDN'T PAY ENOUGH BRIBES.
    *SPLIT DECISION=1 JUDGE GOT PAID OFF.
    *FIGHT ENDS IN DRAW=PROMOTERS WANNA MAKE MORE MONEY IN REMATCH
    lol.............

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    • warp1432
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      #62
      I think when you compare it to good comp... which to me is the 80s fab four... and the 70s heavyweight division... THATS good competition
      No that's great competition. Even then the 70s heavyweight division still had time to grow for 4 years since Ali wasn't fighting.

      People were lucky to be treated to the 70s heavyweights and the fab four. Those are special exceptions.

      Even then you could argue that Hagler's opposition wasn't the best and the wins that truly made him a star (Hearns and Duran) weren't fighting in their best weight classes. You could say that Mugabi was overrated too. Of course none of this is true, but still you could do it.

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      • monkeyboy
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        #63
        Moving up is ONLY impressive when it's to face somebody worthwhile. It was interesting how many people were looking to fight Maskaev when he won a title.
        RJJ - Ruiz is an ideal example of cherry picking. Don't claim to be a heavyweight champ when Lennox is still walking the walk.
        The 'greats' as we know them all really only aimed at 'names' at weights above them.
        If Pavlik faces Calzhage that will be a major plus in Pavlik's resume, win or lose.
        It especially looks good as Pavlik is doing a decent job of clearing the middleweights out.
        In the end I like to see a fighter clear out a division or face names. Moving up for the sake of facing 'A.N. Other Biggerman' is useless unless it's someone of good repute.

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        • nelsoncm
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          #64
          Ricardo Lopez had a somewhat hanging career despite not moving up.

          Although he's one of my favorite all-time fighters, I was frustrated when he retired. Why couldn't he just swallow a donut and move one weight up? Who knows what he could have achieved up there.

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          • Silencers
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            #65
            Originally posted by nelsoncm
            Ricardo Lopez had a somewhat hanging career despite not moving up.

            Although he's one of my favorite all-time fighters, I was frustrated when he retired. Why couldn't he just swallow a donut and move one weight up? Who knows what he could have achieved up there.
            He spent most of his career at 105 but did move up to 108 for his last few fights.

            Wilfredo Gomez did something similar, spent the majority of his career at 122 compiling 20 defense there, moved up once to fight Sanchez, moved back down but then moved back up for his last few fights.

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            • Pullcounter
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              #66
              Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!
              i think it is more impressive to be the best in one division and clean it out. most of the guys who move up alot of divisions do to much ducking and dodging.
              hops ruled a weak middleweight division. calzaghe ruled a weak super middleweight division. rjj ruled a weak light heavyweight division... all these fools should've met up at 175 a long time ago.

              I say clean up the division whether weak or deep, then move up to challenge the best fighters. dominating a weak division is weak.

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              • FUC_U_PAYME
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                #67
                Originally posted by mcentepede
                Common Boxing terms and their real meanings Part I:
                *JOURNEY-MAN = A BOXER WITH MORE LOSSES THAN NUMBER OF TOES
                *BOXER-PUNCHER=A BOXER WHO HAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF KO'S & TECHNICAL SKILLS.
                *BRAWLER= A BOXER WITH FEW TECHNICAL SKILLS
                *SLICKSTER=RUNS AND DANCES ALOT
                *FEATHER-FISTED=CAN'T BREAK AN EGG WITH A HAMMER IN HIS HAND
                *PAST HIS PRIME = OLD
                *MANDATORY CHALLENGER=UNRANKED/UNKNOWN BOXER EXPECTED TO LOSE
                *WBC=WHY BOX CONTENDERS
                *IBF=INTERNATIONAL BOXING FRAUDS
                *WBO= WEAK BOXERS ONLY
                *STRIPPED OF TITLE=DIDN'T PAY ENOUGH BRIBES.
                *SPLIT DECISION=1 JUDGE GOT PAID OFF.
                *FIGHT ENDS IN DRAW=PROMOTERS WANNA MAKE MORE MONEY IN REMATCH

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                • bsrizpac
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!
                  why do you have so much hate in your heart for a man who has done nothing but entertained the fans with his crowd pleasing style and knockouts??
                  Crowd pleasing style? Is that why Margarine is so popular? That's why he's a HUGE draw even among Mexicans right? Use some PBCS douche....

                  I'm a fan of his KOs. You know like when he KOed:

                  Paul Williams
                  Joshua Clottey
                  Rodney "who" Jones
                  Daniel Santos
                  Danny "the beast" Perez

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                  • bsrizpac
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Shalafi
                    you see what I mean? this is pure comedy gold, nobody does it better than VIVA, NOBODY putos!!!! lol
                    Yeah if you're a fan of inbred ******s I suppose

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