Hatton Approached By Pacquiao, De La Hoya: Tells Oscar No

[Kesslerfan#1]

If Kostya came back I have no doubt he could beat Hatton.
Im sure it was the time difference that got Tszyu in the end...he looked tired.
And he must have had difficulty getting down to 140 as the guy looked half dead.
He has had his chances though and not come back so he will stay on his stool forever.
A real shame.

[Chase8400]

Where they come from doesnt make them better or worse that what they are , it never influences me , Im one of the least biased posters on the board .

The shoulder and inactivity was sure well known here , Soliman sparred with KT prior to leaving and KT was looking terrible , thats a fact .

When I say over rated , I mean in the context of ATG ,, he never fought any prime elite fighters , had no superfights , biggest win a KO over the very green Judah and the downers were Phillips and not ever wanting a rematch and quitting on his stool ,,, very good fighter yes , ATG no way .

I agree any fighter can have an off night but it seems to get used with Ricky quite a bit , Collazo , Urango and now you want to use Lazcano ,,,,, maybe just maybe Hatton is not as good as the hype suggests have you ever thought about that .

>Collazo, maybe an off night. Still won and knocked him down, still counts since he was hit and went down. UD win.
>He dominated Urango from bell to bell. I have no idea where that came from. Go back and look at punch stats and the scorecars to enlighten ya. See Urango's last fight and then come back here and apologize to me.
>He soundly beat the piss out of Lazcano, just lacked in defense.(hence the off-night comment) A lesser man would have been KO'd by Hatton, no doubt.
>Judah was fighting better then , than he is now. Just got caught and went chicken legged. Give some credit.
>Nowhere did I ever say that he is an ATG. But he was Ring Champ for a reason.
> As far as Hatton being over-Hyped: Once he loses to someone other than the #1 P4P fighter in the world in a horrible ref'd fight, I may think about it some. Until then, Hatton is under rated because of his loss. Like I said, he is only as good as his last fight in the public's eyes. After Mallignaggi, it will be the same way even if he wins by stoppage. He will have to beat an elite fighter to regain his respect. And, I think that is what he will eventually do.

[Ryn0]

I just gained a lot of respect for Hatton. He knows he will get his head knocked off for tons of money and has decided against it.

Honest? are you going to change your avatar now?

[Steak]

A COUPLE OF THINGS I disagree with.

> Kostya was throwing crisp punches and they were landing. Hatton could not be denied that night. Tyszu knew he was getting clearly beaten therefore he quit on his stool. If you were confused about what was going on , that is on you.
>Just because Hatton is a pressure fighter, did'nt give him some invisible advantage, he was just better. Period.
>The comment about reach not mattering was just clearly an opinion of a non-expert. Longer limbs equal to being able to carry more weight effectively. Manny has the physique to clearly be able to be a Jr. Welter.
>Hatton may be wide open to left hands, but it apparently has only mattered in 1 of his 44 fights. He must not be as limited as you think. Please do not take this as a knock on Manny. I believe him now to be the #1 P4P fighter in the world.

P.S. I'll bet all the points I have that Wladimir Klitschko beats Thompson within 8 rounds.

1. Most ringside observers had Hatton only ahead by 1 or 2 rounds at most. that wasnt just me. Kostya was able to land effective blows on Hatton throughout the fight, and won plenty of rounds because of it, it wasnt a one sided fight at all.
2. Yes, Hatton did have a style advantage over Kostya. Kostya was weak against pressure fights, right? He showed that weakness in a number of his fights. Well, Hatton is a pressure fighter. so wouldnt he have an advantage? Styles make fights, dont they?
3. Yes, reach matters. but just because someone has the bigger reach doesnt mean theyre the bigger fighter, because some fighters are more stocky and filled out than others. Again, Sandy Saddler had a longer reach than Marciano. Would this make him the bigger fighter, even if he moved up to heavyweight somehow? No. Pacquiao could e a legitimate Jr Welter, but Hatton would still be clearly bigger than him, regardless of the reach.
4. Im glad you can read someone's record. But having only lost once in 44 fights doesnt mean anything at all when it comes to head to head matchups. If you put him up against certain fighters, he would lose.

sure, ill take the bet. I dont think Thompson will win, but its not like internet points count for anything anyway.

[killa718]

Ricky Hatton has been approached for bouts with Manny Pacquiao and with Oscar De La Hoya. De La Hoya was set to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a rematch on September 20. The fight was scrapped after Mayweather announced his retirement last Friday. Hatton was approached to fill the void, but his father, Ray Hatton, tells BBC Sport that a De la Hoya fight was turned down because Hatton would need more time to prepare for such a fight. [details]

Delahoya needs to fight a frikin junior middleweight or a middleweight instead of trying to lose weight to fight the smaller guys....c'mon oscar get ya shyt together or retire for **** sake!!

[Chase8400]

1. Most ringside observers had Hatton only ahead by 1 or 2 rounds at most. that wasnt just me. Kostya was able to land effective blows on Hatton throughout the fight, and won plenty of rounds because of it, it wasnt a one sided fight at all.
2. Yes, Hatton did have a style advantage over Kostya. Kostya was weak against pressure fights, right? He showed that weakness in a number of his fights. Well, Hatton is a pressure fighter. so wouldnt he have an advantage? Styles make fights, dont they?
3. Yes, reach matters. but just because someone has the bigger reach doesnt mean theyre the bigger fighter, because some fighters are more stocky and filled out than others. Again, Sandy Saddler had a longer reach than Marciano. Would this make him the bigger fighter, even if he moved up to heavyweight somehow? No. Pacquiao could e a legitimate Jr Welter, but Hatton would still be clearly bigger than him, regardless of the reach.
4. Im glad you can read someone's record. But having only lost once in 44 fights doesnt mean anything at all when it comes to head to head matchups. If you put him up against certain fighters, he would lose.

sure, ill take the bet. I dont think Thompson will win, but its not like internet points count for anything anyway.

1. Most ringside observers had Hatton only ahead by 1 or 2 rounds at most. that wasnt just me. Kostya was able to land effective blows on Hatton throughout the fight, and won plenty of rounds because of it, it wasnt a one sided fight at all.
>If Kostya Thought he could win, he would not have quit. That makes it one sided.
2. Yes, Hatton did have a style advantage over Kostya. Kostya was weak against pressure fights, right? He showed that weakness in a number of his fights. Well, Hatton is a pressure fighter. so wouldnt he have an advantage? Styles make fights, dont they?
>He is a pressure fighter, but it did'nt work against Mayweather. Do you see where I am going with this?
3. Yes, reach matters. but just because someone has the bigger reach doesnt mean theyre the bigger fighter, because some fighters are more stocky and filled out than others. Again, Sandy Saddler had a longer reach than Marciano. Would this make him the bigger fighter, even if he moved up to heavyweight somehow?
>Yes acually. Marciano was a very light heavyweight despite his stockiness.
Pacquiao could be a legitimate Jr Welter, but Hatton would still be clearly bigger than him, regardless of the reach.
>I think that with the right nutrition, the size difference can be made up. See Hopkins for proof.
4.Im glad you can read someone's record.
>You better believe I can. Been following Hatton since 2002 and have seen every fight since then. I did'nt just jumpon the wagon.

You-But having only lost once in 44 fights doesnt mean anything at all when it comes to head to head matchups. If you put him up against certain fighters, he would lose.
Me> Like who? Mayweather? Maybe, even in a fair fight. But who else? Cotto maybe? Those are the very best in the next heavier weight. Who else in Hattons class?

You-Sure, ill take the bet. I dont think Thompson will win, but its not like internet points count for anything anyway.

>Sorry, I figured you were a fan because of the Avatar. Common mistake. I could not care less about points on here as you can see. I was just trying to rile you up a lil.

[Alibata]

Thank god for turning down this fight... as much as i love ricky, oscar would knock that ass out. After pac man breaks off diaz, him and hatton are gonna take it straight to the bank.

You from Boston?? What did you think about the ****ty officiating in Game 2.... Still pissed about that today. Can't get over that rigged ass game..

[Left Hook Tua]

Delahoya needs to fight a frikin junior middleweight or a middleweight instead of trying to lose weight to fight the smaller guys....c'mon oscar get ya shyt together or retire for **** sake!!

oscar was never really a junior middleweight or middleweight either.

he started his career at 130. oscar just can't or don't want to weight drain. which is understandable considering his fiscal situation.

[Steak]

1. Most ringside observers had Hatton only ahead by 1 or 2 rounds at most. that wasnt just me. Kostya was able to land effective blows on Hatton throughout the fight, and won plenty of rounds because of it, it wasnt a one sided fight at all.
>If Kostya Thought he could win, he would not have quit. That makes it one sided.
2. Yes, Hatton did have a style advantage over Kostya. Kostya was weak against pressure fights, right? He showed that weakness in a number of his fights. Well, Hatton is a pressure fighter. so wouldnt he have an advantage? Styles make fights, dont they?
>He is a pressure fighter, but it did'nt work against Mayweather. Do you see where I am going with this?
3. Yes, reach matters. but just because someone has the bigger reach doesnt mean theyre the bigger fighter, because some fighters are more stocky and filled out than others. Again, Sandy Saddler had a longer reach than Marciano. Would this make him the bigger fighter, even if he moved up to heavyweight somehow?
>Yes acually. Marciano was a very light heavyweight despite his stockiness.
Pacquiao could be a legitimate Jr Welter, but Hatton would still be clearly bigger than him, regardless of the reach.
>I think that with the right nutrition, the size difference can be made up. See Hopkins for proof.
4.Im glad you can read someone's record.
>You better believe I can. Been following Hatton since 2002 and have seen every fight since then. I did'nt just jumpon the wagon.

You-But having only lost once in 44 fights doesnt mean anything at all when it comes to head to head matchups. If you put him up against certain fighters, he would lose.
Me> Like who? Mayweather? Maybe, even in a fair fight. But who else? Cotto maybe? Those are the very best in the next heavier weight. Who else in Hattons class?

You-Sure, ill take the bet. I dont think Thompson will win, but its not like internet points count for anything anyway.

>Sorry, I figured you were a fan because of the Avatar. Common mistake. I could not care less about points on here as you can see. I was just trying to rile you up a lil.

1. That doesnt make sense. The fight was pretty close. Just because someone quit doesnt make the whole fight one sided, otherwise Corrales vs. Acelino Freitas could be considered one-sided.
2. haha, what the hell is that supposed to mean? all it tells anyone is that Mayweather is better than an old version of Kostya. and Kostya was much more vulnerable to pressure fighters than Mayweather was anyway, so I dont really know where you were going with that.
3. You do realise that Sandy Saddler was a Featherweight, right? The whole point was that a Featherweight could be considered 'bigger' than a heavyweight/cruiserweight if you only looked at reach. and a featherweight being considered bigger than a heavyweight doesnt make sense, so...

and I am a fan of Thompson, I just aint delusional about the fighters Im fans of. I think he could go the distance, so lets say that thats our bet.

[Left Hook Tua]

You from Boston?? What did you think about the ****ty officiating in Game 2.... Still pissed about that today. Can't get over that rigged ass game..

rigged because the officials let the lakers back in the game or rigged because they want to make sure the celtics win both of their 1st games at home?

i think the latter myself.

if boston had lost 1 or both at home the lakers would've knocked them off in la. the nba wants this to be 7 game series.

i guarantee you that la will get all the calls the next 3 games and head back to boston up 3-2. it guarantees at least 6 games for tv.