Are almost all undefeated retirees frauds?

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Ricardo Lopez.

Nice call baller and wiens.

It's rare not to lose, but some people go on too long, others know when to say goodbye. It's a fine line.

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Castillo in 2002 > Mosley in 2007 in terms of challenges
Judah in 2006 > Judah in 2007
Corrales in 2001 > Quintana, Margarito, Judah
De La Hoya in 2007 > Judah in 2007
Hatton in 2007 > Quintana, Margarito, Judah in 2007
Corley in 2004 > Corley in 2005
Baldomir in 2006 > Pinto, Abdullaev
Sosa in 2003 > Sosa in 2004

I mean we can do this all day long. There is no way Cotto's resume is as good as Mayweather's.

agreed. but cotto still has a long way to go in his career. who knows how he'll end up?

[VIVA MEXICO!!]

... Ricardo Lopez?

of course it is the mexican who is the one exception. he fought the best and beat the best. this man was a true warrior and a great fighter.

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Castillo in 2002 > Mosley in 2007 in terms of challenges
Judah in 2006 > Judah in 2007
Corrales in 2001 > Quintana, Margarito, Judah
De La Hoya in 2007 > Judah in 2007
Hatton in 2007 > Quintana, Margarito, Judah in 2007
Corley in 2004 > Corley in 2005
Baldomir in 2006 > Pinto, Abdullaev
Sosa in 2003 > Sosa in 2004

I mean we can do this all day long. There is no way Cotto's resume is as good as Mayweather's.

Not to mention that Cotto weighed TWENTY POUNDS heavier than Corley. I think there may have been some shady **** at the weigh in in Puerto Rico. I mean he gained 17lbs over night?? That seems a bit high....

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of course it is the mexican who is the one exception. he fought the best and beat the best. this man was a true warrior and a great fighter.

Marciano and Sven Ottke should be there too... even though Sven Ottke shouldn't be undefeated at all.

If Mayweather really is done, I'm afraid his ass will be put in the coward category forever.

You can make whatever argument you want, but the fact is, June is 6 months after his last fight with Ricky Hatton. He could have spent this time training for, and fighting Cotto, instead of doing nothing waiting for an unnecessary rematch with Oscar De La Hoya.

No excuse, and that's the truth. If he was losing his desire for the sport, he should have tied up his last loose end with haste, rather than ****ing around with paydays.

[Fox McCloud]

Not to mention that Cotto weighed TWENTY POUNDS heavier than Corley. I think there may have been some shady **** at the weigh in in Puerto Rico. I mean he gained 17lbs over night?? That seems a bit high....

Joshua Clottey gained 23 when he fought Corrales.

Miranda gained 25 when he fought David Banks.

17 pounds isn't an impossibility, especially for a fighter who was absolutely killing himself to make 140.

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Joshua Clottey gained 23 when he fought Corrales.

Miranda gained 25 when he fought David Banks.

17 pounds isn't an impossibility, especially for a fighter who was absolutely killing himself to make 140.

I was aware of Clottey gaining that much, and my point is that it seems pretty hard to believe that one could gain that much, in other words, they never got down to the proper weight in the first place.... Boxing has been know to be corrupt.... But then again Im not an expert on weight gain..