I don't think Enzo wants any part of Pavlik

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Joes is not eating Pavlik for breakfast you better believe that , you need to take your rose colored glasses off , Pavlik is a bad ass any fool can see that , he beat Taylor twice who beat Hopkins twice who sat Cal on his rump and at times made JC look amateur , Miranda and Lockett was just his usual display of power , Kelly is 6'2'' and only 26 he hasnt peaked yet ,, I will be extremely surprised if Joe takes Pavlik over the easier Jones .

Yet the more unproven Pavlik will easily beat Joe?

Good logic there son.

We have two things to go on. Joe has beaten many people with power who fight in straight lines. Whether you like to admit it or not, Kessler is a better fighter Pavlik, and Joe dismantled him.

The second thing, Pavlik has never beaten anone who even remotely resembles Joe, and Pavlik will have big problems trying to nullify Calzaghe's angle and distance game.

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Yet the more unproven Pavlik will easily beat Joe?

Good logic there son.

We have two things to go on. Joe has beaten many people with power who fight in straight lines. Whether you like to admit it or not, Kessler is a better fighter Pavlik, and Joe dismantled him.

The second thing, Pavlik has never beaten anone who even remotely resembles Joe, and Pavlik will have big problems trying to nullify Calzaghe's angle and distance game.

I didnt say Kelly beats Joe , I said Joe dont have him for breakfast ,, Kelly is a lot more aggressive than Kessler and is more of a warrior in the trenches , also has a better more versatile kit of punches , Kessler is a passive stalker opportunist type that relys on a jab right hand and has nothing as a backup if that fails while Kelly is a predator that hunts you the entire fight and punches harder over the course of the fight than what Kessler does .

He dont have to beat somebody like Joe to be able to beat him , thats a ****** statement and not logical , Kelly will have no problems with Joes angles because his defense is tight and he punches with good hand speed , if Bhop can sit JC on his ass at 43 then Kelly can do a lot of damage if he gets on , I would bet a good bet Pavlik punches harder that Bhop .

What Im saying is Pavlik is a very dangerous fighter that would blow the likes of Lacy and Bika out of there ,, anybody that thinks Pavlik is easy are crazy he would be without a doubt Joes hardest fight .

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I didnt say Kelly beats Joe , I said Joe dont have him for breakfast ,, Kelly is a lot more aggressive than Kessler and is more of a warrior in the trenches , also has a better more versatile kit of punches , Kessler is a passive stalker opportunist type that relys on a jab right hand and has nothing as a backup if that fails while Kelly is a predator that hunts you the entire fight and punches harder over the course of the fight than what Kessler does .

He dont have to beat somebody like Joe to be able to beat him , thats a ****** statement and not logical , Kelly will have no problems with Joes angles because his defense is tight and he punches with good hand speed , if Bhop can sit JC on his ass at 43 then Kelly can do a lot of damage if he gets on , I would bet a good bet Pavlik punches harder that Bhop .

What Im saying is Pavlik is a very dangerous fighter that would blow the likes of Lacy and Bika out of there ,, anybody that thinks Pavlik is easy are crazy he would be without a doubt Joes hardest fight .

I didn't mean you said Kelly beats Joe, I was talking about the general consensus from American's, sorry if you misunderstood.

Kessler is a better technical fighter than Pavlik, however, by a long way.

Joe didn't respect Hopkins power at first, got caught and learn his lesson. Only on one other occasion was he so much as wobbled, and that was because of a headbutt more than a punch.

I didn't say Kelly would be easy for Joe either, but, stylistically, Joe eats guys like Pavlik for breakfast.