I just watched Z Gorres vs Fernando Montiel...

[-Hyperion-]

i know its notwhat the thread is about, but **** it, ill spew some montiel hate: montiel has horrible defense for straight shots when he is agressive or not moving...i mean horrible, the worst ive seen....

[delipooke]

At least I bother to give an explanation on why I picked Mijares over Montiel. Most people are just like "HE'S GOING TO KICK HIS ASS!!" and then don't even bother explaining why.

As for Donaire, Donaire would be pretty competitive with Mijares, but I feel he would lose a clear decision to him. Donaire has a good shot of beating Montiel too. I can see Montiel beating him (read above why), but I think I would take Donaire. I like Donaire. He's a good fighter.

This is the kind of post I expect from you. good one. I too believe that montiel did beat Gorres, but at a very tight scoe that coud have gone either way. You should have noticed that Montiel, whenever he face a good boxer (ie Mark johnson) he has a tendency to pose and do nothing a la junior Witter. This has been why he tends to lose as much round on the scorecards.

[loui_ludwig]

Even then I don't see how you could give Gorres any rounds other then 2,5,8 and possibly round 9.

Like i said i saw the fight last year. The televised and the download. I don't have the download anymore since i have to reboot my computer(lost a lot of boxing/mma fights).

I gave Gorrez more than 7 rounds cuz i see him winning those rounds. Now, if you see him getting less than that, then its your opinion on how you see it. Each fans have their views of how they see the fight. Just look at Barrera-Marquez fight, some have JMM winning but some(including me) have Barrera winning.

Even the Penalosa-De Leon fight. I was suprised that Ring mag and a few medias have Gerry winning cuz the way i saw the fight, Gerry did lose. Gerry was landing the cleaner punches but Ponce was throwing hundeds of punches and landed more. Even though i disagree with the comptubox(whatever you call it), about the numbers of punches landed by Ponce( i believed he landed less), he landed more than Gerry. I have Ponce winning, 8-9 rounds.

[loui_ludwig]

i know its notwhat the thread is about, but **** it, ill spew some montiel hate: montiel has horrible defense for straight shots when he is agressive or not moving...i mean horrible, the worst ive seen....

Some members herer posted that he worked on his boxing skills.

[-Hyperion-]

Some members herer posted that he worked on his boxing skills.

he, welll i saw him just about take any punch castillo threw(even though they had 0 effect), i saw him getting busted up by cecilio santos, im telling you when hes not moving, he is ****....

actually, I like to think of Montiel as the Flyweight Abraham.....**** but with power....

[warp1432]

I haven't seen Ponce-Penelosa, but you had Barrera beating Marquez? Honestly? Seriously you just trying to **** with me or what? That fight is even wider then this one.

[loui_ludwig]

I haven't seen Ponce-Penelosa, but you had Barrera beating Marquez? Honestly? Seriously you just trying to **** with me or what? That fight is even wider then this one.

LOL, no i am not ****ing with you. I did have it for Barrera, 7-5. Don't ask me what rounds, i have seen the fight only once. I am not the only member in here who scored it for Barrera.

[warp1432]

Yeah...I can't believe anyone scores that fight for Barrera. It was an even fight for the first 6 rounds going 3 a piece and then Marquez just dominated him. Barrera had some moments here and there, but Marquez was very clearly winning the rounds. If you watched the HBO version and wasn't really paying attention that's probably how you got 7-5.

[crold1]

1) Montiel won fair and square.

2) Gorres got his gimme' in the 'draw' with Darchinyan that sure as hell was not.