For those who claim oscar would have beaten floyd...

**krispy kreme** · 06-05-2008, 03:12 AM

I doubt Floyd would beat Oscar in his prime. I guess it's possible for him to slip away with a decision, but I would say his chances will have seriously shortened. Oscar is still out of his prime and had not fought in 9 months. Floyd beat him but really did not look as impressive. I doubt even more that Floyd could beat Shane in his prime, but just my opinion. Oscar was landing in the beginning but Floyd soon figured him out.

**rebmogul** · 06-05-2008, 03:32 AM

Originally posted by pbftxrs316

if he jabbed him more, think again. i just watched the fight yesterday afternoon and oscar landed a few solid jabs on floyd in the 8th round but couldn't follow up on them with anything effective. yes, he timed his jabs good, but missed nearly the rest of his shots afterwards. the jab is one of oscar's key punches but he didn't use it much for a reason. that reason is because he lost faith in it imo. he lost faith in the jab because he couldn't land anything to offset floyd after he threw the jab at him. go back and watch the 8th round again. oscar couldn't land nearly any lead right hands, left hooks, or jabs on floyd. he landed maybe 3 good jabs on floyd and that was it. yes, he threw jabs in the 2nd round and 6th round, but many of them didn't land effectively at all. floyd dominated that fight by just cruising, max kellerman was dead on when he gave floyd 9 rounds. oscar fought hard, even with eh advantages he made for himself, but at the end of the daym floyd just had too much skill for oscar and the fight should not have been a sd, but seeing how it was, and floyd has never had a sd victory over anybody, i would like to see them fight again. prime for prime, floyd beats oscar everytime. he is just too good of a fighter for oscar and shane mosley.

watch the fight again. oscar quit throwing the jab because every time he did floyd would whip off a straight right hand and slap oscar's ***** ass silly. that is why he quit throwing the jab.

i'll bet anyone floyd kos oscar in the next fight.......

**El Chicano** · 06-05-2008, 03:39 AM

Oscar in his prime at 140 or 147 would outwork and outland Floyd, possibly stopping him if the met at Jr Welter. It would be close at Welter, but from 140lbs and below, Oscar was a complete wrecking machine. If Floyd had all those problems with Castillo, Burton and Carlos Hernandez in the lower weight classes, Oscar would kill him.

**pbftxrs316** · 06-05-2008, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by Puas

Oscar in his prime at 140 or 147 would outwork and outland Floyd, possibly stopping him if the met at Jr Welter. It would be close at Welter, but from 140lbs and below, Oscar was a complete wrecking machine. If Floyd had all those problems with Castillo, Burton and Carlos Hernandez in the lower weight classes, Oscar would kill him.

the floyd mayweather from 2005, would have killed de la hoya, i promise you this. the floyd that fought gatti, would have been too much for oscar. did you forget to mention thatoscar had problems with many fighters also. at any weight class, oscar loses, guarantee you, especially at 140, floyd would have humilated oscar. floyd had prblems with hernandez, yet tkoed him, beat castillo in a close fight with a torn rotator's cuff, dominated the **** out of burton, and had a long layoff prior to fighting him on ko nation. floyd at any weight class, would have been too great for oscar, his skillset is regarded as amonst the greatest, top 5 indeed, possibly even the greatest ever in terms of overall skills. he is also considered the greatest fighter of his genration.

floyd beats oscar and mosley at any weight. why do you think he called out and shane out for as long as he did, but they could have fought him in 2005, no doubt, but they knew it was a sure lost for them. floyd=too methodical for them both.

**rebmogul** · 06-05-2008, 04:14 AM

Originally posted by Puas

Oscar in his prime at 140 or 147 would outwork and outland Floyd, possibly stopping him if the met at Jr Welter. It would be close at Welter, but from 140lbs and below, Oscar was a complete wrecking machine. If Floyd had all those problems with Castillo, Burton and Carlos Hernandez in the lower weight classes, Oscar would kill him.

please, don't give me no bull**** about oscar not being in his prime. box rec has him ranked #1 @ 154. he is only 35 YO and has only fought THREE times in the last 4 years.

he's averaged only slightly over 2 fights per year for his whole career. he's in his prime...

**rebmogul** · 06-05-2008, 04:17 AM

Originally posted by Puas

Oscar in his prime at 140 or 147 would outwork and outland Floyd, possibly stopping him if the met at Jr Welter. It would be close at Welter, but from 140lbs and below, Oscar was a complete wrecking machine. If Floyd had all those problems with Castillo, Burton and Carlos Hernandez in the lower weight classes, Oscar would kill him.

complete wrecking machine @ 140 and below? give me the name of ANY elite fighter, in ANY weight class that oscar has a victory over. i'll be right here waiting....

**abadger** · 06-05-2008, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by rebmogul

please, don't give me no bull**** about oscar not being in his prime. box rec has him ranked #1 @ 154. he is only 35 YO and has only fought THREE times in the last 4 years.

he's averaged only slightly over 2 fights per year for his whole career. he's in his prime...

If you had ever seen Oscar fight in his prime then there is no way on earth you would say he was in his prime now.

If you have seen him in his prime then I don't know what you are thinking...

**Live Dog** · 06-05-2008, 07:15 AM

Oscar would have never beaten Floyd at any point in his career. This is the same guy that failed miserably in the biggest fights of his career. Floyd wins big fights, Oscar loses them.

**MELLY-MEL...** · 06-05-2008, 07:16 AM

don't underestimate a prime odlh, nor compare prime to the current fighter we just saw vs forbes.

For those who claim oscar would have beaten floyd...