if PAC beats DIAZ.....

[KnockoutTheFat]

lol Guzman would dance circles around Paq and make him pay 10 fold for havin such horrible footwork.

You think Marquez looks impressive snappin Paq's head back all the time? Makin Paq look foolish? Thats not even prime Marquez, thats Marquez at half speed lol. Guzman was the best at 130. Hands down, too fast and too accurate.

Jeezus Christ, the man's been in the ring with the best. Morales x3, Barrera x2, Marquez x2. What more do you want, a fight with Tye "****in" Fields?

[shadeyfizzle]

lol Guzman would dance circles around Paq and make him pay 10 fold for havin such horrible footwork.

You think Marquez looks impressive snappin Paq's head back all the time? Makin Paq look foolish? Thats not even prime Marquez, thats Marquez at half speed lol. Guzman was the best at 130. Hands down, too fast and too accurate.

That Marquez is a counterpuncher that relies on timing to use Pac's momentum against him. Name 1 other fighter out there that has been able to do that to him. Guzman only looks fast against slowass Soto and he still literally had to run away to keep from getting smacked around. Pac is just as quick as Guzman and would punish Guzman 4 keeping his hands as low as he does.

[MaYaN_SuN]

you lol a little too much. too cynical against pac.

i think all the guys involved (filipino) are too busy on helping pac "invest" his money i don't really think they're involved in the boxing side. those guys are probably not knowledgable enough to know who to avoid.

as far as guzman or soto. i can see how roach would think it's a bad matchup against guzman but soto? i don't think soto can beat manny to be honest with you.

as far as being not surprised if manny moves back down if he doesn't look good at 135. isn't that the point of testing the waters at 135?

nobody sets up their guy to lose. especially promoters. fact. i don't see juan manuel and marco jumping at guzman and soto either. maybe it's the money? or is marquez and marco immune from such accusations?

Nah my eyes are open to this ****in guy, lol I'm locked onto his ****. His skill (or lack there of) and his activity. And I don't see what everyone else see's.

I mean Soto whos barely a lesser quality then Guzman could have done the same exact things that Paq did to Morales and Barrera at that point of their careers. But I doubt someone like Soto would get this much hype for it. Thats a whole different discussion though.

As for Soto vs Paq, I think he's way too fast and hits way to hard for Paq. Soto can punch with both hands, has a great jab and everything. I mean watch the first two rounds of the Soto Guzman fight, lol that **** was elite fighting. How Paq got away with not gettin a piece of that? lol I don't have a clue..

And Roach said he's movin Paq up cause "Paq had trouble makin weight." lol So he's gonna look kinda ****** if Paq has no choice but to come back down.

But yeah, as for Paq's career thats all speculation on my part, I'm just sayin thats exactly what it looks like. He's reguarded as a national treasure, he takes a ****, it gets posted on all over the internet. So if he's out takin ****s, those ****s won't mean as much if he loses. Thats why I'm speculating that he's bein handled by more people then Arum and Roach. They wanna make sure when Paq takes a ****, it has the same impact for his fans and people.

Can't have no half ass ****s, lol you know?

[MaYaN_SuN]

What more do you want, a fight with Tye "****in" Fields?

WHOA WHOA WHOA! No one here wants to see someone get punched so hard that they litterally disapear within the realms of existance.

And I'm not bein over dramatic, I have litterally seen Tye Fields punch a guy straight through time and space.

[Left Hook Tua]

lol Guzman would dance circles around Paq and make him pay 10 fold for havin such horrible footwork.

You think Marquez looks impressive snappin Paq's head back all the time? Makin Paq look foolish? Thats not even prime Marquez, thats Marquez at half speed lol. Guzman was the best at 130. Hands down, too fast and too accurate.

excellent point about marquez. that's why i always said john and norwood were atg at feather.

[Left Hook Tua]

Nah my eyes are open to this ****in guy, lol I'm locked onto his ****. His skill (or lack there of) and his activity. And I don't see what everyone else see's.

I mean Soto whos barely a lesser quality then Guzman could have done the same exact things that Paq did to Morales and Barrera at that point of their careers. But I doubt someone like Soto would get this much hype for it. Thats a whole different discussion though.

As for Soto vs Paq, I think he's way too fast and hits way to hard for Paq. Soto can punch with both hands, has a great jab and everything. I mean watch the first two rounds of the Soto Guzman fight, lol that **** was elite fighting. How Paq got away with not gettin a piece of that? lol I don't have a clue..

And Roach said he's movin Paq up cause "Paq had trouble makin weight." lol So he's gonna look kinda ****** if Paq has no choice but to come back down.

But yeah, as for Paq's career thats all speculation on my part, I'm just sayin thats exactly what it looks like. He's reguarded as a national treasure, he takes a ****, it gets posted on all over the internet. So if he's out takin ****s, those ****s won't mean as much if he loses. Thats why I'm speculating that he's bein handled by more people then Arum and Roach. They wanna make sure when Paq takes a ****, it has the same impact for his fans and people.

Can't have no half ass ****s, lol you know?

we'll see. hopefully the fights happen.

i doubt soto though. maybe guzman if he handles 135 well.

[MaYaN_SuN]

That Marquez is a counterpuncher that relies on timing to use Pac's momentum against him. Name 1 other fighter out there that has been able to do that to him. Guzman only looks fast against slowass Soto and he still literally had to run away to keep from getting smacked around. Pac is just as quick as Guzman and would punish Guzman 4 keeping his hands as low as he does.

Paq hasn't even fought anyone that can do what Marquez does lol. Marquez was Paq's toughest fight each time out. And Paq is so sloppy that you can just counter punch him all night. Now Guzman is like a young Marquez. Fast and Accurate. Guzman is more then capable of makin Paq pay for his mistakes. He's so capable that I seriously can't understand why I'm actually defending this fact lol.

And Soto slow? lol Take your eyes out of your ass, Soto's shots are quick and hard.

[RichCCFC]

If Pac wins then Diaz was overrated.

[MaYaN_SuN]

we'll see. hopefully the fights happen.

i doubt soto though. maybe guzman if he handles 135 well.

Yeah Soto won't move up. I think 130 is his. I think in the near future we'll see Soto and Gamboa go at it.

[shadeyfizzle]

Poor Mayan Sun is delusional. Guzman's power aint **** at 130 thats why he hasnt got a KO since moving up from feather and barely escaped from a washed up Barrios. Pac would walk right through his featherfisted assault. I bet he also thinks Margarito who's lost all the biggest fights of his career actually lives up to the hype and could beat Mayweather as well.