The best that never was...

[Ramamaiden]

i'll do one better. felix savon. 4 olympic gold medals and 1,000 world championships in the amateurs.

size? he got it. he was like 6'5 or taller i think.
skills? obviously. you don't win that many gold medals fighting the best amateurs out there.
power? he knocked tua out with amateur glvoes on. what can he do with 10 ouncers?

=0....that sounds awesome...ill search for him to check him out.

[Left Hook Tua]

felix savon vs. david tua

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ja71FoZQrfY

felix savon vs. shannon briggs

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_oZYcjdSJtw

felix savon vs. lamon brewster

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kIjOf7cliSA

felix savon vs. sultan ibragimov

http://youtube.com/watch?v=91eVtOuMnQs

[Left Hook Tua]

tua , brewster and briggs all proved they had durable chins in the heavies.

imagine how well savon would have done with no headgear and pro gloves against those guys?

how many power shots did lennox land on tua?

how many power shots did lamon absorb from wladimir in their first fight?

savon put both on ***** street in the amateurs with headgear and heavily padded gloves on.

[Ras44]

maybe. it didn't help that his ****** corner didn't know **** and couldn't keep the swelling down around his eyes.

i used to believe that mike was undertrained but throught the years i kinda moved away from that point of view. mike was always in excellent condition. i think it was just an excuse that king decided to use to explain him losing.

buster that night was just motivated and determined. no other point in his life would buster haven't gotten up from that uppercut mike landed.

Yes, Buster wanted to win that fight, but I don't think Tyson was concentrated enough. It was the first time in his career he weighted over 230 pounds for a fight.

[danny stash]

what about ALI and his missed time??

[Left Hook Tua]

what about ALI and his missed time??

yeah people forget about that.

how much better would he have been?

people forget the ali that beat frazier twice , foreman , etc. was PAST-PRIME!!!

[Silencers]

Howard Davis Jr

He's the only guy I can think of who was a complete never was. He never won a world title and he never won a significant fight that I can think of. He was very skilled though and was the outstanding boxer at the '76 Olympics.

Just never panned out to being more than a good contender and elite amateur.

The problem with Judah, Tyson and Sanchez is that they were all on top for awhile (however short it was). Tyson was the most feared man in boxing and is considered one of the greatest Heavyweight champions of all-time. Judah was the undisputed Welterweight champion for awhile in addition to being a two-time Light Welterweight title holder. Sanchez is highly regarded among the all-time Featherweight champions and beat the likes of LaPorte, Gomez, Lopez and Nelson. You can't say those guys "never were".

Howard Davis fits that bill as a "never was" though.

Very good call. Davis was a very skilled boxer, it just didn't work out for him in the pros.

Bernard "Superbad" Mays is another one I can think of, a Kronk fighter that couldn't control his habits outside of the ring and never made it big. He was a very good fighter.

[mcentepede]

Stevenson and Savon are in a class by themselves, because of politics we never got to see these guys win pro titiles. They could have though because Cubans are tough mofos...I visited Cuba several times and was impressed, the average Cuban street thug looked intimidating, he also spoke 3 languages. Back to the question, Ike could have been a world champ easily. Howard Davis jr. beat Aaron pryor in the amateurs twice, and held Meldrick Taylor to a draw in his prime(pre-Chavez), he also beat some Cubans for his gold medals(best U.S. Olympic squad ever)...I agree with you guyz on that one, he tanked in the pros.

[miron_lang]

Stevenson and Savon

Those Cuban Heavyweights!

Stevenson Vs Muhammad Ali
Savon Vs Lewis

- We didnt get to see these



COMMUNISM is outdated

[danny stash]

I agree with the assessment that the Cubans are the best that never was along with Howard Davis Jr...