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  • oldgringo
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    #11
    Howard Davis Jr

    He's the only guy I can think of who was a complete never was. He never won a world title and he never won a significant fight that I can think of. He was very skilled though and was the outstanding boxer at the '76 Olympics.

    Just never panned out to being more than a good contender and elite amateur.

    The problem with Judah, Tyson and Sanchez is that they were all on top for awhile (however short it was). Tyson was the most feared man in boxing and is considered one of the greatest Heavyweight champions of all-time. Judah was the undisputed Welterweight champion for awhile in addition to being a two-time Light Welterweight title holder. Sanchez is highly regarded among the all-time Featherweight champions and beat the likes of LaPorte, Gomez, Lopez and Nelson. You can't say those guys "never were".

    Howard Davis fits that bill as a "never was" though.

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    • danny stash
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      #12
      Originally posted by oldgringo
      Howard Davis Jr

      He's the only guy I can think of who was a complete never was. He never won a world title and he never won a significant fight that I can think of. He was very skilled though and was the outstanding boxer at the '76 Olympics.

      Just never panned out to being more than a good contender and elite amateur.

      The problem with Judah, Tyson and Sanchez is that they were all on top for awhile (however short it was). Tyson was the most feared man in boxing and is considered one of the greatest Heavyweight champions of all-time. Judah was the undisputed Welterweight champion for awhile in addition to being a two-time Light Welterweight title holder. Sanchez is highly regarded among the all-time Featherweight champions and beat the likes of LaPorte, Gomez, Lopez and Nelson. You can't say those guys "never were".

      Howard Davis fits that bill as a "never was" though.
      Wow nice call...

      He is the boxing coach for the American Top Team school here in Coconut Creek, I met him in Boca Raton at the gold gloves where he was honored a few months back.

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      • Left Hook Tua
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        #13
        Originally posted by Ras44
        But without Cus, who would have made sure he was well trained and concentrated on what mattered.
        maybe. it didn't help that his ****** corner didn't know **** and couldn't keep the swelling down around his eyes.

        i used to believe that mike was undertrained but throught the years i kinda moved away from that point of view. mike was always in excellent condition. i think it was just an excuse that king decided to use to explain him losing.

        buster that night was just motivated and determined. no other point in his life would buster haven't gotten up from that uppercut mike landed.

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        • Sttuddahboy619
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          #14
          Originally posted by -Antonio-
          Salvador Sanchez
          Amen to that!!!

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          • Left Hook Tua
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            #15
            Originally posted by BostonGuy
            I wish Tua would fight alittle more frequently; he could get himself back into the mix with a few big wins against decent competition...
            too late for him now. in shape he would've been constant top 4-5 in the heavies. or imagine him at cruiser? scary thought. he was 204 when he started.

            tua is in a bad position. he's waiting for one last big money fight but the fights he need to get there are not available. the name guys don't want to risk fighting him (would you? you can't knock him out and all it takes is one lucky punch to get knocked out) and the guys that would fight him that could be a tough match won't get him paid. he's stuck fighting nobodies because one more loss and he's done (if he isn't already)

            prime , motivated , in shape tua would've held a title right now. outside of the klitschkos i don't see anyone being able to beat him.

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            • MikeBrew328
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              #16
              Originally posted by oldgringo
              Howard Davis Jr

              He's the only guy I can think of who was a complete never was. He never won a world title and he never won a significant fight that I can think of. He was very skilled though and was the outstanding boxer at the '76 Olympics.

              Just never panned out to being more than a good contender and elite amateur.

              The problem with Judah, Tyson and Sanchez is that they were all on top for awhile (however short it was). Tyson was the most feared man in boxing and is considered one of the greatest Heavyweight champions of all-time. Judah was the undisputed Welterweight champion for awhile in addition to being a two-time Light Welterweight title holder. Sanchez is highly regarded among the all-time Featherweight champions and beat the likes of LaPorte, Gomez, Lopez and Nelson. You can't say those guys "never were".

              Howard Davis fits that bill as a "never was" though.
              I've gotta agree, he's from my hometown, and a lot of people know him and followed him in the olympics. it's a shame he never went on to be a professional champion because he had great skills, I'm not sure what his downfall was....

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              • Ramamaiden
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                #17
                Teófilo Stevenson

                The cuban Amateur Heavyweight boxer. He was offered to fight Ali but he didnt wanted cos he wasnt interested. Its too bad he didnt go pro, cos maybe there would have been another great heavyweight on that era. Maybe we would have been crashed, but he had that amazing right straight one punch power that could overturn any fight.


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                • krazyx19
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by danny stash
                  Ruben Hurricane Carter
                  Carter was already out of his prime when he was jailed and was never that great of a boxer.

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                  • Ramamaiden
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                    #19
                    my god, i forgot to add this guy.... never seen that display of power, intensity, accuracy and will to win. strange he didnt make it.

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                    • Left Hook Tua
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Ramamaiden
                      Teófilo Stevenson

                      The cuban Amateur Heavyweight boxer. He was offered to fight Ali but he didnt wanted cos he wasnt interested. Its too bad he didnt go pro, cos maybe there would have been another great heavyweight on that era. Maybe we would have been crashed, but he had that amazing right straight one punch power that could overturn any fight.


                      i'll do one better. felix savon. 4 olympic gold medals and 1,000 world championships in the amateurs.

                      size? he got it. he was like 6'5 or taller i think.
                      skills? obviously. you don't win that many gold medals fighting the best amateurs out there.
                      power? he knocked tua out with amateur glvoes on. what can he do with 10 ouncers?

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