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But Joe could still have made a push to fight Ottke or in the US thereby securing his legacy.

As for Ottke. Yes he did have many questionable decisions. Heck I should know since I probably watched all his (boring) defenses. When the decision is announced and it goes against your winner allways ask yourself if you COULD honestly see the other guy winning, and I could see Ottke win (cannot single out the Reid fight sorry). And check Ottkes defenses; some mighty fine wins there.

Ohhhhh ****!! I cannot believe I'm here defending Sven 'Slugger' Ottke.

I never thought I would see the day someone defended him either, lol.

But in allseriousness, there are indeed a few good defenses, the sad thing is they get glossed over when talking about him because of all the dodgy decisions he has received.

The Reid fight was the single most sickeninh thing I have ever seen. He scored a valid KD that was not ruled, even though it was clear as day and the ref was right there to see that it was not a slip. He even had a point taken away for having the audacity to punch Ottke in the face. It was not really that close, and it wasn't really so close that Ottke could have won it.

I had Reid winning by 4 or 5 points I think it was, not sure and can't rewatch it now, but the fight was given to Ottke by margins of 117-112, 115-113 and 115-113.

Have you seen the Danny Williams vs Airich fight yet? It was very similiar in the vibe you got watching it, you just knew that Reid could do nothing that could hand him the W.

A draw would have been a bad decision, let alone a UD for Ottke.

It's a well known saying that even Ali couldn't have beaten Ottke in Germany.