who did sugar ray robinson duck??

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  • Silencers
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    #31
    Originally posted by kswizzy99
    so, robinson ducked burley and fought bums like the great lamotta 6 times and the great Henry Armstrong instead? interesting.
    As Tengoshi said, Armstrong was very past his prime and pretty much begged Robinson to fight him so that he could get the money.

    As I said, he fought and beat the best of the time except for Charley Burley.

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    • wmute
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      #32
      Originally posted by kswizzy99
      so, robinson ducked burley and fought bums like the great lamotta 6 times and the great Henry Armstrong instead? interesting.
      Do you have an idea of what point of his career Armstrong (former featherweight) was when he fought Robinson.

      How many people do you think rank La Motta over Burley?

      Dont make yourself look like a fool...

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        #33
        Originally posted by Tengoshi
        The tape measure incident occurred before the fourth fight with Fullmer. The money incident occurred before the third fight (which was a draw).
        Thanks for the clarification.

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          #34
          It always makes me sad when i talk about burley cos he should of been a 2 or 3 weight world champion he was that good! eddie futch said he was the best he ever saw

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            #35
            Originally posted by cotto16
            It always makes me sad when i talk about burley cos he should of been a 2 or 3 weight world champion he was that good! eddie futch said he was the best he ever saw
            It also pisses me off that, as a result of his never getting a shot, we have close to zero footage of him

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              #36
              Originally posted by Silencers
              Thanks for the clarification.
              Do you by chance know if the third fight was filmed? It's interesting that Robinson would be able to get a draw (especially when he was on the cusp of being shot) against Fullmer when he was losing/lost the first two fights on points. The scorecards are pretty wild too, 11-4, 5-9, 8-8, which suggests controversy.

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                #37
                Originally posted by wmute
                It also pisses me off that, as a result of his never getting a shot, we have close to zero footage of him
                yeah I think I've only been able to find footage from one fight

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                  #38
                  Answered my own question, although I can only find highlights of the fight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEdqKg6OfQQ

                  Edit: Actually this footage could mistakenly be of the fourth fight, as the description states Fullmer won on points.
                  Last edited by Miburo; 06-03-2008, 01:34 PM.

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                  • wmute
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Live Dog
                    yeah I think I've only been able to find footage from one fight
                    Yeah I actually got that awhile ago (Oakland Billy Smith) I dont remember from whom, but I think Yogi... I think there is agreement on that fight being the only existing footage of Burley.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Tengoshi
                      Do you by chance know if the third fight was filmed? It's interesting that Robinson would be able to get a draw (especially when he was on the cusp of being shot) against Fullmer when he was losing/lost the first two fights on points. The scorecards are pretty wild too, 11-4, 5-9, 8-8, which suggests controversy.
                      Yes, it was filmed. I have the full fight.

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