who did sugar ray robinson duck??

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Burley was named to the Ring Magazine's list of 100 greatest punchers of all time, elected to the Boxing Hall of Fame in 1983 and the International Boxing Hall of Fame in 1992...

Burley was ranked 39th on Ring Magazine's list of the 80 Best Fighters of the Last 80 Years...

Legendary trainer Eddie Futch called him the most complete boxer he ever saw.

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Burley was never granted a title shot by any of the welterweight and middleweight champions of that era and was also avoided by many of the top white contenders (Burley's father was black and his mother white).

Among the fighters who "ducked" Burley were Hall of Famers Billy Conn , Frenchman Marcel Cerdan (who was supposed to face Burley in his American debut), Jake LaMotta (who had fought the likes of powerpuncher Bob Satterfield, Sugar Ray Robinson, and Holman Williams, who was Burley's greatest rival), and even Sugar Ray Robinson, considered by many boxing historians as the best pound-for-pound fighter of all time.

Of course, not everyone ducked the slick Pittsburgh warrior. Burley won two out of three matches against future welterweight champion Fritzie Zivic, defeated the great Archie Moore by decision, and easily licked future NYSAC middleweight king Billy Soose. Burley also faced future heavyweight champion Ezzard Charles, but dropped two 10 round decisions to him (the bouts were contested within a five week period, sandwiching a fight against Williams).

Another notable Burley fight was the one against heavyweight J.D. Turner, who outweighed him by around 70 lbs. "Turner, face beaten to raw beefsteak in six rounds, failed to answer the bell for the seventh." (The Ring, June 1942). Burley himself was never stopped in 98 bouts.

Burley's former sparring partner A.J. "Blackie" Nelson offers this comparison: "I see a lot of Charley in this kid, Roy Jones Junior. Both had unorthodox styles, could hit you from any angle, both hard to hit. Charley jabbed more than Jones, if Jones would concentrate on boxing as Charley did, he would become an all-time great."

Eddie Futch, the great trainer, called Burley "the finest all-around fighter I ever saw."

[Xyei]

Even Robinson was known for being a very tough man to deal with at the negotiating table.

I remember seeing a documentary or something on SRR and (I forget which fight this was for) Sugar Ray wanted the ring to be a certain size which it wasn't. So instead of building a brand new ring, the negotiator just altered (I believe he shortened) his measuring tape so that the ring was "the right size."

He was known to be a tough negotiator...

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so, robinson ducked burley and fought bums like the great lamotta 6 times and the great Henry Armstrong instead? interesting.

[C'MONMANG']

Charley Burley.

never heard of him. maybe he asked a bunch of people who he was and they couldnt tell him so he didnt fight him.

[Live Dog]

so, robinson ducked burley and fought bums like the great lamotta 6 times and the great Henry Armstrong instead? interesting.

So you're giving Robinson credit for fighting the same guy over and over? A guy that he went 5-1 against?

[Miburo]

so, robinson ducked burley and fought bums like the great lamotta 6 times and the great Henry Armstrong instead? interesting.

To be fair, Armstrong was completely shot and asked Ray to fight him (Armstrong was an idol of Ray's) to get a payday. I've heard Robinson intentionally carried him the distance.

[Silencers]

I remember seeing a documentary or something on SRR and (I forget which fight this was for) Sugar Ray wanted the ring to be a certain size which it wasn't. So instead of building a brand new ring, the negotiator just altered (I believe he shortened) his measuring tape so that the ring was "the right size."

He was known to be a tough negotiator...

Yeah, he tricked Robinson into thinking the ring was bigger than it actually was. I think it was one of the Basilio or Fullmer fights.

Robinson once threatened not to fight in his dressing room right before he was supposed to get in the ring if he didn't get more money.

never heard of him. maybe he asked a bunch of people who he was and they couldnt tell him so he didnt fight him.

Read the previous posts or search google.

[Miburo]

Yeah, he tricked Robinson into thinking the ring was bigger than it actually was. I think it was one of the Basilio or Fullmer fights.

Robinson once threatened not to fight in his dressing room right before he was supposed to get in the ring if he didn't get more money.



Read the previous posts or search google.

The tape measure incident occurred before the fourth fight with Fullmer. The money incident occurred before the third fight (which was a draw).

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Yeah, he tricked Robinson into thinking the ring was bigger than it actually was. I think it was one of the Basilio or Fullmer fights.

Robinson once threatened not to fight in his dressing room right before he was supposed to get in the ring if he didn't get more money.



Read the previous posts or search google.

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