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  • machotime
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    #31
    Originally posted by DWiens421
    No, I was just saying that Margarito has enough punching power to ruin someone because his punches hurt like hell, but aren't one punch KO punches, so they just keep coming and coming and coming.
    Lets remember now, even considering JCCs late fights, he has an over 80% ko percentage. Lets not compare JCC to Margarito, please dont do that.

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    • Fox McCloud
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      #32
      Originally posted by machotime
      Lets remember now, even considering JCCs late fights, he has an over 80% ko percentage. Lets not compare JCC to Margarito, please dont do that.
      Okay, let's remember, I am not calling them the same fighter.

      Was Chavez a one punch KO artist? No.
      Is Margarito a one punch KO artist? No.

      Can they both throw a ton of punches that hurt a lot? Yes.

      I am merely talking about the amount of punching power they have, not anything else. Calm down.

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      • VIVA MEXICO!!
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        #33
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        Okay, let's remember, I am not calling them the same fighter.

        Was Chavez a one punch KO artist? No.
        Is Margarito a one punch KO artist? No.

        Can they both throw a ton of punches that hurt a lot? Yes.

        I am merely talking about the amount of punching power they have, not anything else. Calm down.
        plain and basic common sense.

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          #34
          Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!
          plain and basic common sense.
          This is kind of scary. You agreed with one of my posts, and I agreed with one of yours... in the same day!

          Has that EVER happened before? I would wager no.

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          • tyson
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            #35
            Originally posted by DWiens421
            Taylor-Hopkins I is exactly the fight that came to mind. It's scary that you knew that.

            Anyway, I think Taylor won more rounds, but **** man... he got his ass whooped in the final four rounds, badly.

            It can be said that Hopkins should have started earlier though.

            But Malignaggi is one of those guys who should have to struggle a lot to win fights IMO... if his body isn't built for the sport, then he needs to figure out a way to win that is unorthodox. If he was a perfect defender, he would end up doing more damage over the course of a fight, because his opponent wasn't doing any.

            Whitaker-Chavez is actually a fight that shows that the heavier puncher did less damage against the very light puncher, because the very light puncher stopped the heavy puncher from connecting, almost at all.
            I know everything.

            Hopkins is a true throwback, a fighter best suited to 15 round fights. Imagine how badass he would have been if there were 15 rounders today.

            I hate Malignaggi. Not really hate, but strongly dislikes. One reason is because he is absolutely *****. Another is his absolute lack of power.
            I agree with you on the matter, but I challenge you to figure out a better scoring system than we already have

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            • LOLORSKATES
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              #36
              It could also be that Quintana, a southpaw boxer/puncher in no way stylistically like Margarito, has Paul Williams' number.

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              • Fox McCloud
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                #37
                Originally posted by tyson
                I know everything.

                Hopkins is a true throwback, a fighter best suited to 15 round fights. Imagine how badass he would have been if there were 15 rounders today.

                I hate Malignaggi. Not really hate, but strongly dislikes. One reason is because he is absolutely *****. Another is his absolute lack of power.
                I agree with you on the matter, but I challenge you to figure out a better scoring system than we already have
                Half point rounds would solve a lot of this ****.

                If Taylor won the first 8 rounds against Hopkins by just outworking and not really damaging him... he would be up 80-76 (10-9.5 X 8). Then Hopkins comes back and beats Taylor ass for the last four. The final score is 116-116, a draw. That makes more sense than what we got didn't it?

                The fights who can't damage, can't hurt their opponents really would have to whitewash their opponents if they want to win without definitively beating their opponent up.

                Sounds good doesn't it?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by DWiens421
                  Half point rounds would solve a lot of this ****.

                  If Taylor won the first 8 rounds against Hopkins by just outworking and not really damaging him... he would be up 80-76 (10-9.5 X 8). Then Hopkins comes back and beats Taylor ass for the last four. The final score is 116-116, a draw. That makes more sense than what we got didn't it?

                  The fights who can't damage, can't hurt their opponents really would have to whitewash their opponents if they want to win without definitively beating their opponent up.

                  Sounds good doesn't it?
                  Well, 10-8 round should be the standard, with 10-7 if a knockdown occurs.

                  10-9 should be awarded for winning/outworking without causing any damage.

                  Calzaghe should only win 10-9.9 rounds for outslapping.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by tyson
                    Well, 10-8 round should be the standard, with 10-7 if a knockdown occurs.

                    10-9 should be awarded for winning/outworking without causing any damage.

                    Calzaghe should only win 10-9.9 rounds for outslapping.
                    Lol, well same difference, but yes, either of our scoring systems is better than the status quo.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DWiens421
                      Lol, well same difference, but yes, either of our scoring systems is better than the status quo.
                      My version is better.

                      Because it came from me.

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