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  • JcourT
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    #11
    But considering you said under 154 pounds i would have to say no

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    • dporcer0
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      #12
      Absolutely not.

      Cotto is not an ATG, Mosley is not at his peak, and De La Hoya isn't an A level elite as he once was. Those set of wins (if done impressively) would get Mayweather top 25 ATG status, but certainly not above greats like Robinson, Armstrong, Greb, Langford, Charles, and Leonard.

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      • Left Hook Tua
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        #13
        Originally posted by boxaholic
        If Floyd beats De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto, and Sugar Shane he will be the greatest fighter of all time behind The greatest Ali.
        ummm......

        will his resume be better than sugar ray robinson? sugar ray leonard? henry armstrong?

        floyd is a great fighter but sorry he's not close to being the greatest. maybe the greatest of his era.

        cotto , mosley , de la hoya is not exactly duran , hearns , hagler. not even close.

        and if you want to talk about his titles in different divisions......henry did the same thing when there were no junior/super weight classes AND they were ALL lineal belts and at a time when there was only one belt.

        now as far as skill he is way up there......but if you are gonna base it on skill and not resume was he better skilled than robinson? or even roy jones?

        great he is. greatest no.

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        • Silencers
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          #14
          No.

          And Ali is top 10 pound for pound.

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          • Vasyl’s dad
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            #15
            Originally posted by boxaholic
            Roberto No Mas Duran over Pretty Boy Floyd. LOL. Duran and Robinson are great but over ALi and Mayweather. Be a Realist
            Duran started at 118 and won a middleweight title, Floyd won't even fight prime welters. Duran is miles beyond what Floyd could even imagine to be.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
              ummm......

              will his resume be better than sugar ray robinson? sugar ray leonard? henry armstrong?

              floyd is a great fighter but sorry he's not close to being the greatest. maybe the greatest of his era.

              cotto , mosley , de la hoya is not exactly duran , hearns , hagler. not even close.

              and if you want to talk about his titles in different divisions......henry did the same thing when there were no junior/super weight classes AND they were ALL lineal belts and at a time when there was only one belt.

              now as far as skill he is way up there......but if you are gonna base it on skill and not resume was he better skilled than robinson? or even roy jones?

              great he is. greatest no.
              Great point that I'm going to add to. Henry Armstrong held all three at the very same time.

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              • Left Hook Tua
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                #17
                Originally posted by boxaholic
                Roberto No Mas Duran over Pretty Boy Floyd. LOL. Duran and Robinson are great but over ALi and Mayweather. Be a Realist
                realistically...... duran beats up floyd.

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                • rebmogul
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boxaholic
                  If Floyd beats De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto, and Sugar Shane he will be the greatest fighter of all time behind The greatest Ali.
                  hell NO. beat cotto, winky and forrest by the end of 2009 and I'll say he is the best fighter since chavez...

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                  • rebmogul
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by dporcer0
                    Absolutely not.

                    Cotto is not an ATG, Mosley is not at his peak, and De La Hoya isn't an A level elite as he once was. Those set of wins (if done impressively) would get Mayweather top 25 ATG status, but certainly not above greats like Robinson, Armstrong, Greb, Langford, Charles, and Leonard.
                    de la hoya has never been an A level elite unless you can tell me the name the A level elite fighter he has a victory over. **** who he fought. Who did he beat?

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                    • boxaholic
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by rebmogul
                      hell NO. beat cotto, winky and forrest by the end of 2009 and I'll say he is the best fighter since chavez...
                      He might as well go up in weight and fight Kelly Pavlik and the Calzaghe. Chavez was a fan favorite that gave everything to boxing. To bad he has at least 80% of his fights against nobody's. I don't think Forrest is big money and Winky is just a bigger man. Floyd should beat Cotto, would beat Forrest but Winky would give him fits because of the size. Lets appreciate great fighters in our era not force them to go up 40lbs to prove there dominance. Prime example Roy Jones.

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