My opinion of Joe Calzaghe

[Turbulence]

In my opinion Joe Calzaghe is not an elite fighter, The first fight I watched of his was the kessler one, so when I found out he was going to fight hopkins I strarted watching his other fights and immediatley did not think he was anywhere near being the great fighter many people think he is. Watching the Hopkins fight you could see Bernard was far superior in the footwork category he moves so well and has great ballance. people made a big deal about calzaghe moving up in weight, hopkins is a middleweight not light heavy and put joe on his ass and hurt him at the end of two rounds can't remember what ones. Hopkins is not a power puncher at elite level in middleweight never mind light heavy. in the first 3 rounds calzaghe completly struggled to do land anything I think if roy jones really wanted to he could finish calzaghe easily in 4 rounds. I think joe has been brainwashed especially by his dad, joe was talking with des lynam about being able to beat some of the smaller heavyweight champions, no chance he would not take their punches at all. I am not a massive hopkins fan but wanted him to expose calzaghe and i think he did. I am not dis*****g the fight was close but only because of certain factors not really attributed to Bernards skill ie age. People are trying to convince holyfield not to fight he's too old they don't want to see him get hurt, hopkins is only 1 year younger. the fact that calzaghe thinks this was a great achievement is dillusional. If he wanted to proove himself in their primes (in which he would have got destroyed) he would have done what ricky hatton did. sorry this is a bit late but only found the site recently

[abadger]

Some of the critcisms you raise about Calzaghe in the Hopkins fight are valid, but does one average performance make you a bad fighter?

What do you think about Joe's one-sided dominations of Lacy and Kessler, his unbeaten record as a pro, his record breaking number of defences and length of reign, the fact that he is currently Ring champ at SMW AND LHW?

[Turbulence]

At first sight they two victories look impressive but upon further research not really this is why I think he appeals to the masses so much. It is impressive to have that record but once again if a division 2 football team plays in division 4 you would expect that level of dominence, but if they stepped up to the premiership the effects would be the polar opposite.

[abadger]

At first sight they two victories look impressive but upon further research not really this is why I think he appeals to the masses so much. It is impressive to have that record but once again if a division 2 football team plays in division 4 you would expect that level of dominence, but if they stepped up to the premiership the effects would be the polar opposite.

So by your analogy Kessler and Lacy, two SMW world champions are division 4, Calzaghe is division 2 and the boxers you think are elite are Premiership, and we could expect these 'elite' boxers to dominate Joe Calzaghe?

Please name your current selection of elite Premiership boxers who will dominate Joe Calzaghe should they fight.

[hardmanbrit]

The British boxer Joe Calzaghe is well past his best at 36 years of age, of that there is no doubt.

The fact that he has been a World Champion for well over a decade says everything, though.

[Turbulence]

The analogy was not entirely well presented all I think it is clear what it meant though, calzaghe and kessler would share the same divion I think lace was terrible. Eubank was good in his day and fairs fair joe beat him but i think he lacks the physical and mental qualities that make someone elite ie roy jones, if we go a bit up and down in weight to look for these opponents (as the greats have done) winky wright, jermaine taylor, kelly pavlick roy jones glenn johnson would beat him winky might struggle due to weight issues upon reflection but I give him a good chance. Antonio tarver would probably KO him if he wanted to, someone in my opinon who has been frowned upon because of his close fight with glenn johnson is chad dawson. I think he showed massive heart and ability in that fight I think that was a good experience for him he got hurt and then started swinging back nigel benn style. In my opinion Chad Dawson would absolutely destroy him. something that I thought was interesting was that I think mayweather could actually beat him if he wanted to a risk because of size difference but not inconceivable. but I suppose that solidify my point the far lighter boxers are pund 4 pound far better than him the only thing that puts doubt in your mind is the size difference not boxing ability.

[abadger]

The analogy was not entirely well presented all I think it is clear what it meant though, calzaghe and kessler would share the same divion I think lace was terrible. Eubank was good in his day and fairs fair joe beat him but i think he lacks the physical and mental qualities that make someone elite ie roy jones, if we go a bit up and down in weight to look for these opponents (as the greats have done) winky wright, jermaine taylor, kelly pavlick roy jones glenn johnson would beat him winky might struggle due to weight issues upon reflection but I give him a good chance. Antonio tarver would probably KO him if he wanted to, someone in my opinon who has been frowned upon because of his close fight with glenn johnson is chad dawson. I think he showed massive heart and ability in that fight I think that was a good experience for him he got hurt and then started swinging back nigel benn style. In my opinion Chad Dawson would absolutely destroy him. something that I thought was interesting was that I think mayweather could actually beat him if he wanted to a risk because of size difference but not inconceivable. but I suppose that solidify my point the far lighter boxers are pund 4 pound far better than him the only thing that puts doubt in your mind is the size difference not boxing ability.

Well, I for one don't share your opinion that any of the boxers you have listed would beat Joe, either now or in their primes, with the exception of Roy Jones Jr, who in his prime was certainly capable of beating Calzaghe, which is not the same as saying that he definitely would.

If you look at the records of the fighters you list there is little to suggest that they would beat Joe, who has NEVER lost a boxing match, let alone been KO'd. There are plenty of posts by me and others that explain this, and I don't have the energy and inclination to get into in detail again, but I suggest you are looking at the boxers you list in an exaggeratedly favourable light and Calzaghe in an exaggeratedly negative one. Remember, it is he who is currently undefeated and a two weight champ, not any of them.

You are entitled to your opinion though, so I'm not going to criticise you for posessing it.

[Turbulence]

I am trying not to just be a calzaghe hater I think some people need to be more realistic, it's like I am a big ricky hatton fan but i'm not going to defend him to the death for the sake of not budging my opinion slightly. If he fought any of the top welterweight's even zab judah and andre berto he gets destroyed. I think the new champ timothy bradley would bet him shockingly enough quite easily I hate to say that but I think it's true his a big thickly muscled light welterweight with good hand speed. as much as i dislike junior witter that fight was 50/50 inn my opinion mostlly because of junior's power. and Ricky only has one loss. It is impressive to maintain an unbeaten record but if you donot test yourself against the best your skills will not improve either that is why I think you would be suprised if he stepped in the ring with tarver I'm not saying clinton woods is a brilliant boxer or anything but but tarver destroyed him just sparring

[Jim Jeffries]

At first sight they two victories look impressive but upon further research not really this is why I think he appeals to the masses so much. It is impressive to have that record but once again if a division 2 football team plays in division 4 you would expect that level of dominence, but if they stepped up to the premiership the effects would be the polar opposite.

Besides WWs Trinidad and DLH, who did Hopkins fight during his reign at MW (and beat) that was better than the majority of Calzaghe's 21 title defenses at SMW?

[Turbulence]

Why omit them from the list that is part of my point i'm not trying to handicapp anyone by deleting opponents. antonio tarver and winky wright I think are better plus I know he didnot beat roy jones but went 12 rouns with him in his peak, glen johnson