Calzaghe's title wins have been more impressive than Floyd's!

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  • Fox McCloud
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    #21
    Originally posted by pesticid
    That James Toney poll should've shut u up
    So that's all you can pull out. You got me in an off-topic discussion, so you bring that up. Well done, I'll admit I was wrong, apparantly Toney was in his prime by most people's standards.

    That being said, Mayweahter has a better resume than Calzaghe, easily. You picked the most advantageous fighters to compare, and made stipulations like "you can't evaluate Castillo or Lacy's career after they fought Mayweather and Calzaghe!" Because you knew that everyone would vote for Castillo if you looked at the fighters' actual careers, as opposed to just the hype surrounding them.

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    • abadger
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      #22
      Point about this is, that everyone who says "Calzaghe fought bums" proves absolutely jack all about how good he is or his not. His biggest, most important fights, where he won the titles that, you know, make or break a boxers reputation, were all great wins.

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        #23
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        So that's all you can pull out. You got me in an off-topic discussion, so you bring that up. Well done, I'll admit I was wrong, apparantly Toney was in his prime by most people's standards.

        That being said, Mayweahter has a better resume than Calzaghe, easily. You picked the most advantageous fighters to compare, and made stipulations like "you can't evaluate Castillo or Lacy's career after they fought Mayweather and Calzaghe!" Because you knew that everyone would vote for Castillo if you looked at the fighters' actual careers, as opposed to just the hype surrounding them.
        I didn;t make any stipulations, I listed the facts and I didn't say that Floyd's resume wasn't better, I know it is. I listed their title winning fights. What's so wrong about that.

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          #24
          Originally posted by pesticid
          I didn;t make any stipulations, I listed the facts and I didn't say that Floyd's resume wasn't better, I know it is. I listed their title winning fights. What's so wrong about that.
          You did though. You told people to only evaluate what the fighters had done up to the point of their fights with Mayweather and Calzaghe.

          So Castillo's wins over Julio Diaz, Juan Lazacano, Diego Corrales, Joel Casamayor, etc. shouldn't have been evaluated in the judging of the poll according to you. Talk about stacking the ****ing poll.

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            #25
            Originally posted by pesticid
            Who did he fight at 140?

            Corley
            Bruselles
            Gatti

            Cotto fought Zab, Mosley, Quintana, Urkal and Gomez at 147 while FM fought Sharma, Judah after a loss, Tata and Hatton

            let's play this game the way you do:

            Zab after a loss.
            Mosely old and shot
            Quintana good win
            Urkal = who?
            Gomez = who? loser.

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              #26
              Originally posted by bsrizpac
              let's play this game the way you do:

              Zab after a loss.
              Mosely old and shot
              Quintana good win
              Urkal = who?
              Gomez = who? loser.
              Quintana = unproven. You aren't allowed to evaluate what they do after the fight with whoever you are talking about. That's what he told me when I said the Floyd's win over Castillo was better than Calzaghe's win over Lacy.

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                #27
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                You did though. You told people to only evaluate what the fighters had done up to the point of their fights with Mayweather and Calzaghe.

                So Castillo's wins over Julio Diaz, Juan Lazacano, Diego Corrales, Joel Casamayor, etc. shouldn't have been evaluated in the judging of the poll according to you. Talk about stacking the ****ing poll.
                You asked me a question by the end of the poll and I answered it for you. Didn't stack ****. Truth is I didn't need to. I can;t believe though that some people thought that DLH was a better challenge than Hopkins. Insane!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by bsrizpac
                  let's play this game the way you do:

                  Zab after a loss.
                  Mosely old and shot
                  Quintana good win
                  Urkal = who?
                  Gomez = who? loser.
                  Ok let's continue, Zab got koed by Cotto, Quintana got koed, Urkal and Gomez got koed, many people thought that Mosley would win. Who did Floyd knock out at 147 except for Ricky?

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                    #29
                    Sharmba Mitchell that;s who. Pathetic opposition for the undisputed champ at 147

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by pesticid
                      Sharmba Mitchell that;s who. Pathetic opposition for the undisputed champ at 147
                      Actually Zab Judah was the undisputed champ at the time when Mayweather vs. Mitchell happened.

                      Once again, good try.

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