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Anyone Have Vitali Klitchsko In There All Time Top 10 Heavyweights?

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  • #41
    Originally posted by 1g5a22 View Post
    a fan is a crime??

    oh no sorry that was mike wasnt it,exsplain to me why tyson is so great,did he not KO bums,got KO'd by a bum and then went on to fight like a bum,2 years playing skittles in the naffest decade ever and i should have him above VK why?
    Being a fan is not a crime no............. being naive to the extent where your admiration clouds your judgment.

    Tell me one fighter on that Klitscho had beaten that would beat Michael Spinks, Frank Bruno, Razor Ruddock, Andrew Golota or Bustor Douglas or even a faded Larry Holmes.

    Tyson fought in a poor era and dominated...........true but Klitschko fought in a poor era and has done nothing

    Tyson struggles to make my top 10 but he is still higher than Klitschko.

    You state that you are not basing this on achievement but ability yet you ranks Jack Dempsey higher than a man he never beat......Gene Tunney.

    MENSA my ass!!

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    • #42
      Originally posted by markosg View Post
      Being a fan is not a crime no............. being naive to the extent where your admiration clouds your judgment.

      Tell me one fighter on that Klitscho had beaten that would beat Michael Spinks, Frank Bruno, Razor Ruddock, Andrew Golota or Bustor Douglas or even a faded Larry Holmes.

      Tyson fought in a poor era and dominated...........true but Klitschko fought in a poor era and has done nothing

      Tyson struggles to make my top 10 but he is still higher than Klitschko.

      You state that you are not basing this on achievement but ability yet you ranks Jack Dempsey higher than a man he never beat......Gene Tunney.

      MENSA my ass!!
      oh the old whos he beat cliche,thats original!!

      frank bruno,lol!

      the fighters u mention,,,,,klitchko would have sparked em all out,with the exception of holmes

      golota,douglas etc are u serious?

      its funny how the decline of american heavyweight domination coincides with the "americans are bums nowadays" cliche rather than the fact that they find it difficult to admit they arent so superior after all,all this he fought him so he couldnt beat him or be mentioned alongside him etc is utter ****

      have i really upset you that much..

      chuck wepner now theres a legend

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      • #43
        Originally posted by 1g5a22 View Post
        oh the old whos he beat cliche,thats original!!

        frank bruno,lol!

        the fighters u mention,,,,,klitchko would have sparked em all out,with the exception of holmes

        golota,douglas etc are u serious?

        its funny how the decline of american heavyweight domination coincides with the "americans are bums nowadays" cliche rather than the fact that they find it difficult to admit they arent so superior after all,all this he fought him so he couldnt beat him or be mentioned alongside him etc is utter ****

        have i really upset you that much..

        chuck wepner now theres a legend

        Any argument should be evidenced........... and a bold statement like yours should be done so even more. You have failed to do this.....

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        • #44
          Originally posted by deanrw View Post
          Yeah Kirk is from my hometown. he was another guy with a ton of potential, but he failed because he never had the discipline to actually train. I always liked Kirk, but when I saw what he looked like against Vitali when he came into the ring, I started cheering for Vitali to knock that fatass out. What is sad is i even met Kirk twice before that and always considered him a nice guy. My motto is though if you don't make the effort, you deserve a beating in this game.

          Vitali was an imposing heavy, and he would have been a giant against many on the all time list. But I cannot rank him with then because he failed to live up to his potential also due to injuries etc. being an all time great usually include longevity and fights against others who are great. if he could have stuck around for another 2-3 years, who knows.
          So you're from Nova Scotia? Nice. a lot of good fighters came from Canada. the popular but troublesome hilton brothers. and of course the heavyweights included the great Sam Langford who was denied a title shot by people with the same mentality that Tunney has because he was black. Lenny of course represented the canadian gold, razor ruddock became pretty popular too.

          I always loved George Chuvalo. I had a pleasure of meeting him, the nicest and most humble individual. I loved that he was so stubborn in the ring, that will, determination that kept him going. I love rewatching some of his old fights. The greatest chin in boxing IMO. did you see the punches he took from Foreman??? inhuman

          and yeah of course Kirk. great potential had everything going for him. but that inconsistency, the training problem ****ed him. when i saw that flab on his body in the klitschko fight, i immediately thought Kirk is going down. 260 pounds is inexcusable. i guess kirl loved the kitchen more than he loved boxing.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by markosg View Post
            Any argument should be evidenced........... and a bold statement like yours should be done so even more. You have failed to do this.....
            **** me call forensics,evidence aplenty......

            lighten up, are you all melodramatic to the exstent of obsession...

            its just a personal choice i didnt know i had to prepare an opening statement,prep my evidence and call all witnesses

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            • #46
              NO.

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              • #47
                BTW, I guy who quotes Bill Shakespeare should know the difference between they're, there, and their.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Live Dog View Post
                  BTW, I guy who quotes Bill Shakespeare should know the difference between they're, there, and their.
                  u know what they say about pedantic people.......

                  nice to know your editing my every word,flattering but sinister

                  WALKIES.......

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by 1g5a22 View Post
                    **** me call forensics,evidence aplenty......

                    lighten up, are you all melodramatic to the exstent of obsession...

                    its just a personal choice i didnt know i had to prepare an opening statement,prep my evidence and call all witnesses
                    It was also your choice to lock your daughter in your man made celler and have lot's of children with her............

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                    • #50
                      i would put him borderline top 20...he came along at a ****ty time but he's been the best since lewis left...it kinda sucks for him but that's the way it is!

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